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The recorder has started. All right. Welcome. Everybody to day. 2 of the conference today. We are in the basic scores session. Our presenter is Mars. Levy.

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I'm Kate play and I'm a coma Co moderator today with David prohaska.

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Now, on to this session.

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Morris Levy is the head of demographic initiatives at the Ohio State University libraries.

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He has a long background as music cataloging and has an educational background in music as well. We are very honored to have him here. Today. I will turn it over to Morris. Now.

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Thank you very much.

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I am now the presenter and I'm seeing my presentation. Everyone can hear me. Okay. Thumbs up.

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Yes, we can. Yep, great perfect.

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I was getting the audio from my phone, which is seems to be the default since I.

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We came back from the pandemic, but.

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Now, it's coming through the speakers, so everything or the headphones. So everything is good. Thanks. Everyone.

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For coming to this presentation, I'm very excited about.

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The opportunity to talk to you about basic score cataloging.

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As Kate said a, I have.

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A long background in score cataloging.

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1st, at Harvard University.

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Working with their in their special collections library, open library with collections of opera and ballet.

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Then at Northwestern University, I was the.

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Senior music catalog there for 11 years.

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Um, and now, uh, I run the print cataloging.

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Department here at the Ohio State University so I'm, I'm very happy to come back to score cataloging.

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Really my position here has been managing for the last 2 years. So I like getting my, my hands dirty and working with.

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Materials again, in preparation for this.

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Presentation, so thank you all for coming. I saw.

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At least the initial roster, and there were a number of colleagues of mine that I know from music library association meetings and Facebook friends and such. So.

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I'm just so happy to have such a great audience into those of you who are.

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I don't normally catalog scores or very rarely catalog scores.

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Or I've never catalog to score and is interested in this. This is really what this presentation you are really for whom this presentation is meant. So I hope you enjoy it and.

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So, let's get started I have not taught this before.

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The last time scores cataloging was taught at olack was in 2014. see if this will move forward not yet.

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You can put your cursor on the site. There we go. I got it just needs to get it started. So content by me in 2014, it was taught by Margaret Corby at Kansas State University.

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So I adapted her presentation for this presentation.

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So today's workshop, I will demonstrate how to catalog several scores element by element. You will try your hand at cataloging the score element by element.

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And we will examine a few issues in detail and show some examples I have written into the program several points at, which I will take questions.

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So, if you have questions.

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Please enter them in the chat and when we get to the point.

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Where we get to a question and answer point, David will read the questions to me and I'll try to address them.

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So, I appreciate that so you'll be.

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You did for the entire presentation.

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So, when I say catalog several scores.

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What I'm talking about is cataloguing in.

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Mark, which is the way most of us.

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Are cataloguing today there are some of us who are working in other formats, whether it could be in mods. So, some of that might be.

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Adaptable to that what we're doing frame perhaps a little less.

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What is out of scope for this presentation and some of it will be talking about in the advanced scores.

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Section in a couple of hours.

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Out of scope for this is creating authority records. Elsie classification.

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Medium of performance terms for music, we'll of course, be talking about medium performance, but we will go deeper into how they are used in the advanced class.

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Forms genre headings for music subject headings for music and linked data.

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In general, whether it's big frame or whether they're.

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Whatever other opportunities there are to use link data for music. Uh.

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Descriptive cataloging.

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And the rules that we'll be using are from the current version of rba.

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If you were working back in 2014.

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When this course was 1st taught, that was.

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Not too long after a 2.

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Had been, um, uh, let's say a supplanted.

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By already, and so there was a lot of discussion in that 2014 presentation, and it's still available on the.

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olack site a lot of conversation about how we used to do it in to.

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That is cataloguing scores and how we do it now in a lot of conversation about walking.

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Crosswalks from 1 version 1 rule set to another.

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Um, clearly that's not necessary for this presentation. We're all.

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Very heavy in I'll be talking in a few moments about the new version of what's available now is beta. Um.

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And why I won't be teaching from that version of for this presentation. So is available through the already a tool kit.

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It is available.

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Through subscription, if you are working as a catalog, or most likely, your institution has made this available to, you.

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Is a content standard it tells you what information to record.

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It does not tell you where to record it.

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And it does not tell you how it will display.

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Meaning it was intended to be used for any platform, including mark.

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Display, obviously there are lots of, uh.

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Ways that catalogues are displayed to the public, lots of platforms for that. Some of them are standalone platforms that don't come with your.

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So, that's not art is meant to do.

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A lot of those decisions are, uh.

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Come from yet another set of rules, if you work in.

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Connection if you work with World cat, World cat, they have their own set of rules that are not always.

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The, they work in tandem, let's say, with rules.

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But there, for example, their expectations and.

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Cataloging SLC, for example, for what would make.

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A reason to create a new record.

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If if you were working on your own, you might find lots of reasons to create a new record based on different versions of the same score.

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Clc has its own specification for when you would use the record that's available in.

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World cat and times when it would be appropriate to add a new record for a different version.

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So, I'm going to be.

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Popping up with comments. Okay that's fine. I'll try to.

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Works for them, not be distracted by them, but thank you Emily. I'm sure it is beautiful in Maine right now are the instructions.

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They tell us to record individual data elements and not create mark the graphic or authority record. So, again.

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The instructions themselves are little.

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That's how we apply those bits of metadata that depends on the platform in which we're using.

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Already instructions in the current already are not.

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Organized by format, and they're even less organized by format in the beta version. All instructions together are in a single sequence.

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So, it is possible is tedious to read the current.

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It is not possible to do that in the.

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Well, I suppose it's possible, but, um, the beta version of already is very much break broken up into very small bits.

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So, we use whichever data elements apply to the format being catalog. So there are some sections in the current.

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That are focused on music and there are things that you catalog in a score that hold true for anything.

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Let any print resource that you would use. So information about transcribing a title.

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Are the same essentially for music?

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As they are for a book, but there are some issues beyond that that are music specific and into the current there are sections specific to music, cataloging and score cataloging.

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Actually.

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Because, of course, there's also a sound recording.

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Cataloguing which is another thing that music catalogs do.

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So, the toolkit is organized into 3 general areas. The.

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Attributes the relationships.

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And then the appendices in glossary.

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So, when we talk about in this presentation, we core.

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When we look at Corps, we're talking about something that is required.

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So, it is required for us when using.

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To include this element in our graphic record.

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Core if beans that certain.

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Conditions need to be met to make it required to use. Um, so there may be times when something is not available.

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And then that is fine for us to.

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Excluded if the conditions are not met, um, alternative.

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Oftentimes, depending on the particular cataloguing agency, there are some rules that are not specific to. Well, I should say that they give alternate alternatives.

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To the previous rule, and for that and.

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Mentioned that that we usually rely on other resources, like the library of Congress.

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Pc policy statements or the best practices.

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From music, and we'll talk a little bit more about that soon.

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Optional additions and omissions.

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We could provide more or less information.

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And then exceptions, which would say here is the rule.

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And then list a group of exceptions, and even with those exceptions that are in.

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Um, there are standards provided by the policy statements, and by best practices, music.

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Um, that might give us some guidance as to when we take that exception. And when we don't.

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Record and transcribe, so.

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Recording means you encode the data according to the guidelines.

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But not necessarily how it appears on the resource. So.

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For example, a date of publication.

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Is we're asked to record it.

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But we're asked to record it using Arabic numbers.

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It may be then, on our item of the data publication is provided in Roman numerals.

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That is an instance where we would be asked to record it.

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And not to specifically transcribe it. That is to say, I won't use Roman numerals.

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In my normal cataloguing when I.

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I am asked to put in the publication date that I might see on the title page transcribe. That's the opposite.

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Take what how it appears on the source of information.

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And even within that context, when it says transcribe, we still have guidelines for capitalization situations symbols.

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And that is changing too. It used to be with a.

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For example, with titles, it used to be that you had to use the standard.

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Punctuation you had to capitalize the 1st word of the sentence, but not any of the other words, unless they were proper nouns.

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Now, that's changed now you may transcribe.

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What you see, so, if the title page is all in all caps.

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You may decide that's how you want to transcribe it. So things have changed a little bit from when this presentation was 1st given, but.

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In general, most people are continuing to use the standard.

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Expectation for capitalization punctuation that catalogs have been using.

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For roughly 50, 60 years.

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Here's where I'll discuss the other resources. So if you've used the tool kit here is the beginning.

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Of the rule for parallel title proper.

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You'll see a bunch of little boxes with some text in them.

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And each of these is an additional resource.

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That is sort of a commentary.

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At times, but also would might give instructions on how to use a particular rule. So, the 2 that are most important to us.

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At least most of us who were, uh, probably on this call is the LCD.

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And so the library of Congress program for cooperative cataloging policy statements, the.

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Ps are again if you are working.

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In a resource, like.

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World cat where it's a shared resource.

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The expectation is that we would follow.

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Uh, the Elsie, um.

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If you're just working on your own catalog and not sharing records, I suppose.

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Uh, you're not obliged to do that, because you're not really in a shared environment, but most of us who are cataloguing are contributing to World cat.

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And, uh, most of us would use the, the parallel titles.

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Excuse me the policy statements, so.

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What does it say? It says for monographs transcribe all parallel titles proper for cereals record our parallel titles proper in Mark field. 246.

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So it's saying that normally we would record a parallel title.

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A, in a 245, so he'll be.

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But for cereals, you would not record it there. It would record in 246.

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Again, the rules do not dictate.

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That is the rules do not dictate where you put the information.

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The, the policy statement says, here's.

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Where you should put this information.

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So, um, we should always in looking at a rule. We should always revisit a.

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What the policy statement says, if they are available in the hearty a tool kit, as we saw built into it, and also available through catalogs desktop.

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Full records that are cataloged using standards may be coded and the o4 2 field. Now that would be true.

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Either, if you were trained.

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By in 1 of their training seminars, or your institution.

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Was a, a library, and you received the training from someone.

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Uh, perhaps your supervisor, someone who had that training.

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So, oftentimes you'll see these records and they are to a higher standard.

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Of cataloging of following rules.

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Um, and then perhaps other records that you might find in world.

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And then there are they Emily Emily best practices.

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The, and again sharing with you, the parallel title proper.

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Uh, oftentimes the best practices will simply say, follow the policy statements.

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Here it makes it clear that the parallel titles.

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Essentially.

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Not differing too much from, uh, the policy statement. Um.

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Although it, uh.

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Is a recommendation that if you you are using a.

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Parallel title proper that you should use the 1 that appears you should use 1 that if it appears on.

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The same source as the title proper itself.

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Optionally, you can do something of course, optionally you could find it somewhere else, but it sort of really pushes you to only include the parallel title.

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If it appears as the same place as the title proper.

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Also available through the toolkit and catalogs desktop catalog or desktop that we don't know, is an LLC product again, only available through subscription.

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And it's generally agreed, even though they're called best practices, which may seem a little squishy. But in general, especially when you're cataloging in.

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World cap, the expectation is that you would follow these as well as the policy statement.

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For music formats at the score and musical sound recordings.

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So, here's the beta to get.

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Parallel tighter proper here.

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A Noman, so we're ready. We're using some language that we did not see in the.

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Current version of that is title proper in another language script. So this is just the beginning of this information.

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That's in the tool kit. 1 thing I want you to note here.

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Is that, uh, hopefully you can read this is that there are policy statement sets.

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Currently there is no policy statement.

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2 from LLC PCCC for parallel title problems.

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There is currently no policy statement from music library association for the parallel title proper. This is what we mean, when we call it a beta.

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Tool kit, it's not finished yet.

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That's why I've decided it would be a little early for me to be using a.

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The beta tool kit in this presentation, it's supposed to become the official.

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On December 15th.

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Which means they have about 2 months to exactly. 2 months.

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To make some decisions about what they will include it may well be that, uh, on December 15th if they keep that, as it start date.

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That that information won't be available.

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That they'll still be working on adding that information.

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Uh, and those resources to it.

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The original will be available.

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Certainly through the year 2021, and probably into 2022 and as I said, there'll be going to be a number of changes and policy statements added after the switch over occurs if the switches.

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So I don't think there's reason to think that it wouldn't but, um.

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It may not be fully formed when it is.

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So, I'm taking a little stop here. Are there any, uh.

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Comments David to address.

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So this is all background no question so far. Morris. All right. Well.

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Not for this stuff, let's get into music. Here. You go.

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Here I go, and David is a fine music catalog himself. So, um.

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So, here's the example that we're going to talk about today. This is the 1st page from a score.

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We're gonna start with the title proper the title proper.

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Is we transcribe.

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So, we write down what we see it is core so it must be done. We take from the title page when it is available.

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And if it is the resource that makes the most sense, if it's.

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Looks like a title page then use the title page. Some title pages. Don't look like title pages then you might prefer using the cover or if there is no title page cover.

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If that's not available, then the caption and, as I said, normalize.

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Normally we capitalize the 1st letter, so.

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Here we go the title proper for.

245
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Dry is Dr. ansari's ticket.

246
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And then mark that goes into the 245 subfield a.

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Parallel titled proper that's also transcribed.

248
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It's core according to so we're going to use that.

249
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Take from any source.

250
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Uh, as we said, the.

251
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Uh, best practices a.

252
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Take from any source yeah.

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But we would really prefer it if you, if it's available on the title page, then use it.

254
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So, here, we have it in parentheses, 3 fantasy pieces. So when we transcribe it, we as, as we said earlier, we don't necessarily.

255
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Copy the punctuation that we saw on the title page. So, in this case, we put it in the sub field B of the 245.

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3 fantasy pieces, and we put it in the 246.

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3 fantasy pieces and.

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Uh, we code the.

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And I hope everybody, I'm talking a lot of Mark here kind of necessary. So I hope most of you are familiar.

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With Mark, so we have the indicators 3 and 1.

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The 2nd indicator 1 specifically refers to parallel titles, parallel titles meaning in this situation translations.

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Other title information we transcribe again Elsie tells us to use them take from the same source as the title.

263
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And they may also appear in a 246 field.

264
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Parallel other title information so there may be other title information in the same.

265
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Language as the parallel title information.

266
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So, in this case, and we often see this in scores.

267
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You'll see that it says the title.

268
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And then the parallel title.

269
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And then the other information to your ear.

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Translated as 4 piano, follow it.

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Yet, when we.

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Private, we transcribe what we see, but we don't necessarily put it in the order.

273
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In which we're seeing it, so, according to our mark practices.

274
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We'll put the German part together and then followed by the English part.

275
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So, we have drive fantasy sticker and so you'll be fear cloudier.

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Equals indicators a parallel.

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3 fantasy pieces, colon for piano.

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This happens if you've never worked with scores, this happens all the time.

279
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If there are too.

280
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Statement of responsibility relating to title proper.

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Transcribe core same sources of the title proper.

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So, in this case, the composers name, the statement of responsibility, it appears on the top of the title page that's not where it goes in market goes at the end.

283
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So that goes in the field C.

284
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Ending with a period.

285
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That's 245 to 45 fields end with period.

286
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Let's look at the publication information.

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That was appears at the bottom in this case, in the bottom of the title page.

288
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So.

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We transcribe as we see it.

290
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We also are using the 1st place.

291
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That's listed is core, so it is not necessary for us to live list. Every place we can, but it is not necessary.

292
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If there is a point given it is best to try to figure out where it's been published.

293
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So, oftentimes we might look at their website to find where it's published.

294
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Or we could search.

295
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Let's say in wildcat for under that publisher and to see if it's been listed by someone else, someone else was able to identify the place of publication. But it's but if you really can't determine it.

296
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Place of publication not identified as what we use.

297
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And use brackets, if it did not appear on the resource anywhere.

298
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In this case we have 2.

299
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And we've decided fairly that we are going to list both of them in the 264 both under subfield day.

300
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publisher's name.

301
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Sometimes there is more than 1 publisher. Likewise only the 1st, 1 is core.

302
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Um, most people would consider listing both that they really were 2 publishers the same issue about the brackets. If you're.

303
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That publisher is not clearly indicated on the resource, but there is other information.

304
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Please supply it, but put it in bracket. So here we are New York.

305
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Their music classical.

306
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Data publication.

307
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Record core same sources title, but another source.

308
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A resource okay. Use brackets when inferring.

309
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So here.

310
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We have the copyright date. That's what's a given. So the data publication isn't necessarily the same as the copyright date, but unless there's a reason for us to believe that they're different.

311
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We'll use the copyright date as the inferred date of publication.

312
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And put that in the 266th indicator 1.

313
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In this case, we have a copyright date provided.

314
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And so that goes in the 266th indicator for.

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Distributor's name this we would transcribe.

316
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And core if the publisher's name is not identified.

317
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In this case, this is the image from the back.

318
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Page, uh, the, the, um.

319
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The back cover.

320
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And it's actually on a sticker.

321
00:35:09.929 --> 00:35:19.228
Now, again, this is optional. It's not required it's only required if there were no other.

322
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That went to much faster than I expected it to. Let's go back up.

323
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I go back up easily and you help.

324
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You want to go to the previous slide.

325
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No, I went to the end. Oh, you went to the end so.

326
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Is there a thing might be might be to pay press home and it will take you to the beginning and we can move forward there. I guess I can do that.

327
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Yeah, I was going to be the main hit end. Okay. Okay.

328
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Okay.

329
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Right.

330
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So, I see what it.

331
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So, the publisher's name was identified, so it's not core.

332
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However, I am going to include this, even though it appears on a label 1 of the reasons that I'm going to do this is because it includes the P. C. symbol as well as a catalog number.

333
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Here music classical is distributed.

334
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Uh, into the United States, by how Leonard so that is a choice that I'm going to use in cataloging this.

335
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Talk a little bit about some.

336
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Information in the O7 field, as you mean, the leader field, the mode of issuance.

337
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This is a monograph, a single monograph that gets coded as an.

338
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We have some identifiers for the manifestation, as I said, we have a.

339
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See, as well as a publisher number.

340
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Which is the 00119 6 4 7.

341
00:37:31.438 --> 00:37:43.978
And these are core if they exist, which is why I want to record them, which is why I thought it was important to include that information from the sticker. So.

342
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The UBC goes in 2 for the publisher number in the way.

343
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So this is the carrier and content information.

344
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This is a score.

345
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This is music for piano, so we say that it is 1 score.

346
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With it's coated in the oh, wait field.

347
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As an L, and we say 1 score in the 300 field.

348
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If you're not used to that for books where you just put in the pagination.

349
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And for music, you say for score cataloging, you say 1 score or 2 scores, or.

350
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Whatever is appropriate, but for this case, we say 1 score.

351
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And then we put the pagination in parentheses.

352
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Dimensions just like a book.

353
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Content type.

354
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In this case, it has notated music.

355
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Just like a printed book is on mitigate mediated.

356
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And the carrier type is a volume.

357
00:39:12.929 --> 00:39:17.369
Form of musical notation, which is core.

358
00:39:20.784 --> 00:39:31.315
And in 713, 3, 3, there is a controlled vocabulary controlled vocabulary are going to change with the new. But at least we have 1 now.

359
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So, this is what staff notation looks like. I think most of the music that we're going to see is in staff notation.

360
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Usually staff notation is 5 lines.

361
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With little black dots on them sometimes the black dots.

362
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Our White thoughts, and sometimes the dots have staffs and.

363
00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:05.369
Flags attached to them, but in any case staff notation.

364
00:40:05.369 --> 00:40:11.429
But there are other kinds of notation, graphic notation. These are actually scores.

365
00:40:11.429 --> 00:40:14.820
Is there actually people expected to play from them.

366
00:40:14.820 --> 00:40:19.199
Number notation.

367
00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:24.780
Here's a case, I can't remember if this example is.

368
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Japanese or Chinese, but.

369
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Staff notation Here's pneumatic notation. This is a.

370
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From a manuscript.

371
00:40:40.019 --> 00:40:48.329
Tablets here.

372
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This would be played by, let's say, I think this is probably Luther guitar music.

373
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Um, and each of those little dots, instead of being notes, there are finger placements.

374
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And here's an example.

375
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Of tablets with staff notation with cord cymbals on top.

376
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So you can see on top it is.

377
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Um, what would be played by could be a piano or a guitar.

378
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And then on the bottom, we have the fingering for for another guitar part. Perhaps.

379
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So, Here's from the this is a piano piece. It uses standard staff notation, which we put in the 546.

380
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I think maybe I'll pause here for some questions.

381
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Yeah, we have several more us. The 1st, 1 is from Bobby Bossman. Who says, why are you not transcribing the parentheses?

382
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1, 7, 3, and says to do so, if I didn't see that, I would think you might have a different score than I do.

383
00:42:08.940 --> 00:42:13.530
Huh.

384
00:42:13.530 --> 00:42:19.170
That's an interesting interesting point.

385
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I would have to defer David, is that what you would normally do is not used for it if you would if you had them, you would use them.

386
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Well, if it was within a single sub field, I would transcribe them.

387
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But 7, 1, 7, 3 also has an exception that says, omit punctuation that separates data to be recorded as 1 element from data to be recorded is a different element. So, if I have.

388
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A German title, and then in parentheses, I have an English title and they're.

389
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You are going into separate.

390
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Elements, so I would not transcribe a complete.

391
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Sub transcribed punctuation around a complete sub field.

392
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If it were embedded within this field, I would.

393
00:43:09.059 --> 00:43:14.760
I think it, I think that's sort of my feeling on that too. So I'm glad you.

394
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Found that instruction.

395
00:43:18.929 --> 00:43:25.019
Considering how clumsy this is.

396
00:43:25.019 --> 00:43:31.860
In in, I have to use the word clumsy, but in trying to piece this together.

397
00:43:31.860 --> 00:43:44.519
With the sub field be as well as you'll be having all of these elements within it. I would I think it's probably more aesthetically than anything else.

398
00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:47.579
To to choose, not to include them.

399
00:43:47.579 --> 00:43:51.119
It's probably not wrong.

400
00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:56.940
Um, but I think it is an option that does make it a little more reasonable. I think.

401
00:43:56.940 --> 00:44:02.880
Yeah, I have seen some folks do the transcribing and.

402
00:44:02.880 --> 00:44:06.090
For a whole sub element, but I don't tend to.

403
00:44:06.090 --> 00:44:09.090
Just with then yeah.

404
00:44:09.090 --> 00:44:12.630
Okay, I hope that.

405
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Answers.

406
00:44:15.659 --> 00:44:26.250
Sufficiently any other questions 2 more Emily colored she asked, why wouldn't the publisher also be identified for statement of responsibility?

407
00:44:26.250 --> 00:44:29.460
Huh.

408
00:44:29.460 --> 00:44:32.489
The statement of responsibility.

409
00:44:32.489 --> 00:44:37.530
Most often is directed toward the work itself.

410
00:44:37.530 --> 00:44:42.750
So, if we're talking about the, uh.

411
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The 3 fantasy pieces who is responsible for the 3 fantasy pieces that is.

412
00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:55.679
A composer of the work is that is that David does that.

413
00:44:55.914 --> 00:45:10.885
Is that a reasonable answer? Yeah, that makes sense. Thank you. And I agree. And then 1 more question, Emily creo asks regarding the 300 field. If there are multiple works bond together and say a set of due apps.

414
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Is it still 1 score or is it the number of pieces.

415
00:45:19.110 --> 00:45:23.190
I'd have to think about what you mean by bound together.

416
00:45:23.190 --> 00:45:26.940
Is that how they were issued by the.

417
00:45:26.940 --> 00:45:31.949
Publisher, so if you had, let's say a collection.

418
00:45:31.949 --> 00:45:35.849
Of 3, piano, trios.

419
00:45:35.849 --> 00:45:43.769
That was published that would be 1 score that was issued by the publisher.

420
00:45:43.769 --> 00:45:49.590
Do you think that's what of what.

421
00:45:49.590 --> 00:46:00.929
emily's asking I think so. I think she meant to fair multiple works that are published together. Do you still call it? 1 score you call it 5 scores if they're in a single volume.

422
00:46:00.929 --> 00:46:06.539
Right so so if it's in a single volume, it is 1 score.

423
00:46:06.539 --> 00:46:13.050
If it's in multiple volumes, it still it could be just.

424
00:46:13.050 --> 00:46:18.840
Described as 1 score, and then instead of saying, 12 pages, you might say 2 volumes.

425
00:46:18.840 --> 00:46:24.300
It really is, is referring to how it was issued by the publisher.

426
00:46:24.300 --> 00:46:34.769
Right out of manifestation question and I'd always sort of confuses new 1 score 3 volumes. But what it means is the whole thing takes 3 volumes, but it's 1 score.

427
00:46:34.769 --> 00:46:40.949
Exactly, a little hard to wrap your head around, but that is what Emily met, and then live post it.

428
00:46:40.949 --> 00:46:48.630
I'm sorry, we're opposed to 1 more question. Is there a time? You wouldn't record the distributor if available.

429
00:46:48.630 --> 00:46:52.619
It may not be.

430
00:46:52.619 --> 00:46:55.829
It may not be necessary to do it.

431
00:46:55.829 --> 00:46:59.550
It's again, it, it's an option.

432
00:46:59.550 --> 00:47:07.829
So, it just depends on how, how deep you want to go. I often find that that distributor information, including it.

433
00:47:07.829 --> 00:47:12.599
Usually means that I'm trying to distinguish it from another addition.

434
00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:17.070
So perhaps having that distributor there.

435
00:47:17.070 --> 00:47:27.510
Would indicate that this is a later publication than the 1 that didn't have the distributor so that when it was published, let's say in 1931, there was no distributor.

436
00:47:27.510 --> 00:47:31.019
When it was republished in 1956.

437
00:47:34.135 --> 00:47:39.534
Then listed a distributor, so that is a way to distinguish between the 2 volumes.

438
00:47:39.864 --> 00:47:51.025
Like I said, that's what I would do if I, if I need felt, I needed to make that distinction and sometimes it could be republished and sometimes it could be a completely a different addition.

439
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:55.110
And having that distributor information.

440
00:47:55.110 --> 00:47:58.860
Is yet another indication that it is a different addition.

441
00:47:58.860 --> 00:48:02.280
And not just a reprint.

442
00:48:03.389 --> 00:48:08.039
Thanks, I think that catches it catches up on questions.

443
00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:15.360
Did you want to cover a little more ground before we check the right? Oh, yeah, excellent. On board. We got.

444
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:25.650
All right, I'm trying not to hit that end button. I'm so tempted off the right creators.

445
00:48:25.650 --> 00:48:36.570
It's an awesome we use when we record it we use the authorized access point for the name and it is, of course, the core.

446
00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:44.309
So, we have a.

447
00:48:44.309 --> 00:48:49.019
Who is listed as the poser in this case um.

448
00:48:49.019 --> 00:48:55.139
The, uh, creator is usually last name 1st name.

449
00:48:55.139 --> 00:49:04.170
And we will review how that name appears in the authority filed.

450
00:49:04.170 --> 00:49:10.920
When we are recording the name in the 100 field, and in this case, not only does it have his.

451
00:49:10.920 --> 00:49:15.059
Name, but it also has his dates of.

452
00:49:15.059 --> 00:49:21.360
1st, in depth. So, uh, the full recording is novel comma our tour.

453
00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:25.260
With some field, the 18821951.

454
00:49:28.920 --> 00:49:32.730
Relationship designators. They are not core.

455
00:49:32.730 --> 00:49:36.900
They are optional, but, um.

456
00:49:36.900 --> 00:49:41.909
We are certainly seeing them as standard practice and records.

457
00:49:41.909 --> 00:49:48.630
I think most of us who catalog books are familiar with author.

458
00:49:48.630 --> 00:49:52.260
Might also use editor.

459
00:49:52.260 --> 00:49:55.289
But guess what is.

460
00:49:55.289 --> 00:50:04.230
He also was a pianist, probably more famous as a pianist, but in this case is relationship to the work is as a composer.

461
00:50:04.230 --> 00:50:08.130
And so we use the term composer.

462
00:50:08.130 --> 00:50:11.489
In the sub.

463
00:50:14.969 --> 00:50:18.599
Preferred title from musical work now this is something.

464
00:50:18.599 --> 00:50:25.440
Um, as I mentioned earlier, we're going to go deeper into this.

465
00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:30.539
When we discuss if you're able to take the.

466
00:50:30.539 --> 00:50:35.130
Advanced scores class it is possibly of the most complicated element.

467
00:50:35.130 --> 00:50:38.550
Of the music resource, graphic record.

468
00:50:38.550 --> 00:50:43.260
Is creating a preferred title for a musical work? Um.

469
00:50:43.644 --> 00:50:56.965
If you can find 1 that's already been created in the authority file. Terrific. I'm creating 1 from scratch. Scratch can be very complicated, or it can be very simple.

470
00:50:57.054 --> 00:50:59.215
It really depends on the title of the work.

471
00:50:59.670 --> 00:51:03.539
In this case.

472
00:51:03.539 --> 00:51:06.900
The title of the work is title proper.

473
00:51:06.900 --> 00:51:13.829
Is was German.

474
00:51:13.829 --> 00:51:22.710
Therefore, he was German, not Austrian, but in any case, so, German is the title.

475
00:51:22.710 --> 00:51:32.309
Of his language, and so it is most likely the form that we would use in creating the preferred title.

476
00:51:32.309 --> 00:51:39.750
We omit the number drive is German for 3. and so, in this case.

477
00:51:39.750 --> 00:51:45.780
The preferred title is fantasy sticker, which we enter in the 240.

478
00:51:45.780 --> 00:51:49.110
Field good mark.

479
00:51:53.369 --> 00:52:02.579
Related work, um, that really 1 wants to me. Well, in any case, um.

480
00:52:02.579 --> 00:52:14.039
The structured description of parts of a larger work. So we're talking about, in this case, the related work, meaning the parts of the work. So, this work is actually in 3 parts.

481
00:52:14.039 --> 00:52:17.909
As 3 movements.

482
00:52:17.909 --> 00:52:22.500
And so we can transcribe those 3.

483
00:52:22.500 --> 00:52:26.519
This probably fair to say, record them.

484
00:52:26.519 --> 00:52:34.110
Um, in a content note, this case content's note being the 5 and 5 field.

485
00:52:34.110 --> 00:52:43.110
Um, there are many ways to do this. You can do it using.

486
00:52:43.110 --> 00:52:52.139
Full this 1 is not full any the 2nd indicator of the 5 and 5 is not 0T but if you wanted to do it.

487
00:52:52.855 --> 00:53:07.164
Fully and code it properly so that all the titles are separated from the non title information. You could do it that way. Sometimes people like to record the numbers of the movements. So it would be.

488
00:53:07.469 --> 00:53:11.489
1, 2.

489
00:53:11.489 --> 00:53:16.170
My French is very bad, but in any case.

490
00:53:16.170 --> 00:53:26.010
You could do that. That's why this is not a transcribed field. This is a record field and there are many options for filling this out.

491
00:53:26.010 --> 00:53:30.210
And it is not core, it's not required.

492
00:53:30.210 --> 00:53:33.840
But it is helpful.

493
00:53:34.949 --> 00:53:38.010
So, now this is what.

494
00:53:38.010 --> 00:53:43.889
I say complete Mark record, but this is really the information that we have discussed up to this point.

495
00:53:43.889 --> 00:53:48.360
So, we have, um.

496
00:53:48.360 --> 00:53:51.960
The for.

497
00:53:51.960 --> 00:53:56.159
So, that's the, the O2 8 that was the.

498
00:53:56.159 --> 00:54:01.199
Publisher number from the sticker, we have the 100 field.

499
00:54:01.199 --> 00:54:04.679
Which is the creator.

500
00:54:04.679 --> 00:54:09.269
As the authorized access point.

501
00:54:09.269 --> 00:54:12.300
We have 240.

502
00:54:12.300 --> 00:54:18.599
We have the 245, which is the title information.

503
00:54:18.599 --> 00:54:23.639
The 246 which is for the parallel title.

504
00:54:25.860 --> 00:54:30.420
264 1 publisher information.

505
00:54:30.420 --> 00:54:33.960
264 2 the.

506
00:54:33.960 --> 00:54:40.920
Distributor information 264 for the copyright date.

507
00:54:40.920 --> 00:54:44.789
300 physical information.

508
00:54:44.789 --> 00:54:48.210
3, 3, 6, 7 and 8.

509
00:54:48.210 --> 00:54:51.719
Fields.

510
00:54:51.719 --> 00:54:55.289
Here we have the musical notation 546.

511
00:54:55.289 --> 00:54:59.699
And the content's note, so.

512
00:54:59.699 --> 00:55:03.599
We've all catalogued 1 score.

513
00:55:03.599 --> 00:55:06.869
Yeah.

514
00:55:06.869 --> 00:55:09.869
Let's take some more questions.

515
00:55:12.809 --> 00:55:27.385
We have any more David. Sorry I was flipping around a little too 1 more question we'd ask for the 5 or 5. would you prefer the contents listing over the caption? Title?

516
00:55:27.385 --> 00:55:33.954
On the piece? What happens when they differ? That's a terrific question.

517
00:55:35.699 --> 00:55:42.030
And I don't know, honestly, if there is a preference.

518
00:55:42.030 --> 00:55:48.360
Uh, over 1 or the other, I think you should use the 1 that that makes the most sense.

519
00:55:48.360 --> 00:55:51.690
1 of the things that you might say.

520
00:55:51.690 --> 00:55:59.309
Is that in this case, for example, they are numbered 1, 2, 3, which is fine.

521
00:55:59.309 --> 00:56:05.039
But sometimes tables of contents, and you'll see this in particular with popular music.

522
00:56:05.039 --> 00:56:09.780
Collections the tables of contents are going to be in alphabetical order.

523
00:56:09.780 --> 00:56:15.719
And and they'll list all the pages in which they appear.

524
00:56:15.719 --> 00:56:30.264
But the table of contents is in alphabetical order, that's a time when I often then go to the captions or sort of taking them out of alphabetical order and put them in the order in which they appear in the score.

525
00:56:31.224 --> 00:56:38.215
So that may be an instance where I would certainly follow what was appearing in the score in the captions.

526
00:56:38.460 --> 00:56:42.719
Rather than using a table of contents.

527
00:56:42.719 --> 00:56:46.829
Sometimes I find that.

528
00:56:46.829 --> 00:56:55.679
A table of contents, or even that brief listing that we saw for this score may not have parallel titles.

529
00:56:56.394 --> 00:57:10.224
They parallel titles may be listed in the caption, so I might choose to use the 1 to capture. So it really isn't for me a definite 1 or the other. It's it's the choice. I'm glad that you mentioned that there are.

530
00:57:10.739 --> 00:57:23.820
That the captions you exist, and that they do have different information. I just tried to choose the 1 that the option that gives the most information, but also be consistent. Obviously.

531
00:57:23.820 --> 00:57:29.610
If I'm using captions for 1, I'm going to use the, what appears for the captions for all of them.

532
00:57:29.610 --> 00:57:36.000
And not not pick and choose, which is a guess you could pick and choose if you wanted to. But.

533
00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:39.900
I think that's a little too free, at least for me.

534
00:57:42.690 --> 00:57:48.900
I would say that's what's in the policy statement for 25 1 1 3.

535
00:57:48.900 --> 00:58:03.030
Says required the title proper that appears in the source that provides the best identification. So if the captions are giving you more clear information, I would do what Mars said and follow that as well.

536
00:58:03.030 --> 00:58:07.170
Yeah, we're not talking about titles proper per say.

537
00:58:07.170 --> 00:58:13.110
Right. And then 25 1, 1, 3 is about formal contents now.

538
00:58:13.110 --> 00:58:19.380
Yeah, exactly. Thanks. I like when when I'm accidentally correct.

539
00:58:20.605 --> 00:58:32.304
Not accidental. I'm like colored she asked for the 546. would it help to be more specific about what kind of staff notation it is for example, whether it's number pneumatic or tablet.

540
00:58:34.469 --> 00:58:39.840
They are not the same.

541
00:58:39.840 --> 00:58:42.840
You so so you should use.

542
00:58:42.840 --> 00:58:52.079
The term that applies to your score, and your score may have more than 1 and if your score has more than 1.

543
00:58:52.079 --> 00:58:55.500
You can include more than 1 type.

544
00:58:55.500 --> 00:58:59.130
I think they're separated by sub field. These if I remember.

545
00:58:59.815 --> 00:59:09.655
Sounds right, but yes, you can include everything that exists on your score, but you should use the control vocabulary terms.

546
00:59:09.925 --> 00:59:17.094
So if your score has staff, notation and tablets, that's what you should record in the 546.

547
00:59:18.300 --> 00:59:23.789
It's not necessarily a question of specificity. It's how the score is being used.

548
00:59:23.789 --> 00:59:27.150
Sure, Emily.

549
00:59:27.150 --> 00:59:30.360
So that kind of questions.

550
00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:42.894
Okay, well, I think we're at an hour. Okay. Why don't we take a 10 minute break we'll meet back at 130 on the East Coast. So, let me back at 140 or whatever.

551
00:59:42.925 --> 00:59:48.385
40, it is, for you see you and I don't know if there's anybody on the Atlantic.

552
00:59:49.500 --> 00:59:55.889
Time here. Welcome to Newfoundland, but we'll, I'll figure it out 10 minutes, 10 minutes.

553
00:59:55.889 --> 00:59:56.250
Yeah.

554
01:09:42.149 --> 01:09:49.649
All righty, it's 140. so why don't we get back at basic score recording? Thank you David.

555
01:09:49.649 --> 01:09:54.449
Sure.

556
01:09:54.449 --> 01:09:59.609
Ah, okay.

557
01:09:59.609 --> 01:10:04.109
So, now we're going to look at.

558
01:10:04.109 --> 01:10:08.010
A different example, this example.

559
01:10:08.010 --> 01:10:12.329
Is a score with 2 parts.

560
01:10:12.329 --> 01:10:22.649
So.

561
01:10:22.649 --> 01:10:27.055
Motivations even though this is a multi part,

562
01:10:27.055 --> 01:10:27.805
monograph,

563
01:10:28.345 --> 01:10:35.005
meaning is issued with 2 formats score and parts,

564
01:10:36.114 --> 01:10:38.154
it is not considered a collection.

565
01:10:38.154 --> 01:10:43.135
It is considered a monograph still. And so we continue to code it as.

566
01:10:47.130 --> 01:10:56.520
This work here for trumpet trombone in Oregon much like the other example that we saw.

567
01:10:56.520 --> 01:11:05.430
We see that there is a translation of the other title information.

568
01:11:05.430 --> 01:11:10.380
In this case, though, there is no translation.

569
01:11:10.380 --> 01:11:16.350
For the tidal itself, there is no parallel proper title.

570
01:11:16.350 --> 01:11:25.979
A parallel proper title of this case would probably just simply omit the dash between Guttenberg and.

571
01:11:25.979 --> 01:11:37.710
Uh, that probably would be what we would expect in English and, so when we record the parallel other title information, we're going to record it.

572
01:11:37.710 --> 01:11:43.079
In this field B, just as we did, but there is no title.

573
01:11:43.079 --> 01:11:48.029
Uh, in between no parallel proper title in between that.

574
01:11:50.880 --> 01:11:54.029
Wherever there it is a date.

575
01:11:54.029 --> 01:11:58.560
This date that appears in parentheses is not the date.

576
01:11:58.560 --> 01:12:08.159
Of publication, it is the date of composition and as such.

577
01:12:08.159 --> 01:12:11.909
Uh, it is also considered other title information.

578
01:12:11.909 --> 01:12:17.640
Which is why we would place that in the 245.

579
01:12:17.640 --> 01:12:24.029
At the very end, and in this case we are keeping it.

580
01:12:24.029 --> 01:12:27.119
In the parentheses, um.

581
01:12:27.119 --> 01:12:39.510
Sometimes it would be, it would be possible. I suppose if you were going to follow a different set of punctuation, maybe it would be preferable to, to record it.

582
01:12:39.510 --> 01:12:44.880
Uh, not in parentheses, but followed by a comma. Uh, I've, I've seen that often, but.

583
01:12:44.880 --> 01:12:52.560
In this case, it makes as much sense to transcribe it with the parentheses.

584
01:12:56.970 --> 01:13:04.590
So, in this case, the statement of responsibility, we actually have 2.

585
01:13:04.590 --> 01:13:15.000
People responsible for this work we have the composer whose name appears in the upper right hand column or right. Hand of the title page.

586
01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:21.390
And then we have an editor, the editor of this.

587
01:13:21.390 --> 01:13:27.899
Uh, work probably received the manuscript from the composer and, uh.

588
01:13:27.899 --> 01:13:32.310
Wrote it out in a reasonable notation.

589
01:13:32.310 --> 01:13:36.390
Printed musical notation.

590
01:13:36.390 --> 01:13:49.409
So, what does that mean in terms of what how we transcribe that since we have so many languages, we have English and German going on here. So we transcribe.

591
01:13:49.409 --> 01:13:55.920
Uh, the composers name is not typical for us to transcribe.

592
01:13:55.920 --> 01:14:01.170
His dates of birth and death uh, we just transcribed the name of the.

593
01:14:01.170 --> 01:14:05.640
Composer, but, uh.

594
01:14:05.640 --> 01:14:09.630
The phone.

595
01:14:09.630 --> 01:14:16.050
And edited by both are both appearing.

596
01:14:16.050 --> 01:14:20.729
It is standard practice for us to only use.

597
01:14:20.729 --> 01:14:24.210
The German since the.

598
01:14:24.210 --> 01:14:30.149
1st, other information that appears is in German.

599
01:14:31.524 --> 01:14:39.505
It is conceivable to write this all out as a 2nd parallel title.

600
01:14:39.534 --> 01:14:53.965
It is conceivable that you would do the whole thing repeating Guttenberg takada, as it appears. Then followed by the English. That is conceivable. It is not aesthetically pleasing.

601
01:14:54.024 --> 01:14:59.425
So I did not do that. And left it as such because again.

602
01:15:00.569 --> 01:15:06.420
Even if you could do that for the 240.

603
01:15:06.420 --> 01:15:13.140
5 subfield B, which is to repeat Guttenberg, jacada, and then have for trumpet.

604
01:15:13.140 --> 01:15:16.409
In be flat trombone in Oregon.

605
01:15:16.409 --> 01:15:29.939
Then you would have to try to do that in the sub field sea to have that title information there since it is not really a 2nd composition. It's still the same composition. This is what we would.

606
01:15:29.939 --> 01:15:35.189
Uh, this would be normal practice to just transcribe 1 of them.

607
01:15:35.189 --> 01:15:40.350
And not use a parallel tidal, not use a parallel for those 2 terms.

608
01:15:40.350 --> 01:15:44.909
And then have the name of the editor at the at.

609
01:15:47.520 --> 01:15:53.399
So, we have a designation of edition in this case.

610
01:15:53.399 --> 01:15:59.460
And a parallel designation of in addition.

611
01:15:59.460 --> 01:16:02.489
Little farther down the page.

612
01:16:02.965 --> 01:16:06.685
Hard to tour, stemming score and parts.

613
01:16:08.064 --> 01:16:21.145
So we transcribe that in the 250 field where we put in addition information, parallel title within a sub field B, for the parallel title. Just like you would in the 245.

614
01:16:28.079 --> 01:16:35.520
So the extent, as I said, we have 2 different formats of music.

615
01:16:35.520 --> 01:16:40.590
Issued in this resource a score that is 16 pages.

616
01:16:40.590 --> 01:16:44.069
And 2 parts.

617
01:16:44.069 --> 01:16:52.199
1 of the standards in score cataloging is that you do not.

618
01:16:52.199 --> 01:16:59.130
Include the pagination of the parts if you have more than 1.

619
01:16:59.130 --> 01:17:04.770
Is that arbitrary? Somewhat.

620
01:17:04.770 --> 01:17:12.000
But have to remember that many of the rules for music cataloging and.

621
01:17:12.000 --> 01:17:17.100
Because of how was implemented.

622
01:17:17.100 --> 01:17:23.039
Many of those rules came from to unedited.

623
01:17:23.039 --> 01:17:29.939
It was just quite frankly, there wasn't not enough time because music is, as you.

624
01:17:29.939 --> 01:17:39.569
May have noticed it's very complicated, or can be very complicated. And so many of those rules were brought over from to and with the.

625
01:17:39.569 --> 01:17:52.260
Caveat that, perhaps we would revisit them at some point. So, those rules from to, of course, came from a came from a time when we were putting information on cards.

626
01:17:52.260 --> 01:17:58.439
A time when when we were putting information in text based.

627
01:17:58.439 --> 01:18:02.010
Is that.

628
01:18:02.010 --> 01:18:09.930
We had a limited number of bites available to us and so we were short handling a lot of things and this carries over.

629
01:18:09.930 --> 01:18:13.680
Into the practices for scores, will they change.

630
01:18:13.680 --> 01:18:18.270
Uh, in the new potentially.

631
01:18:18.270 --> 01:18:22.859
Potentially, but that's when we would look at best practices.

632
01:18:22.859 --> 01:18:31.229
The new best practices to see how that might be adopted. But in this case, since we only have.

633
01:18:31.229 --> 01:18:43.350
Since we have 2 parts, not 1 part, we do not list the pagination's for the parts. So, in recording this information, we have the option.

634
01:18:43.350 --> 01:18:47.699
Of putting them in a single, 300 day.

635
01:18:47.699 --> 01:18:52.380
1 score 16 plate pages plus 2 parts.

636
01:18:52.380 --> 01:18:56.069
Or we can put them in separate ones.

637
01:18:56.069 --> 01:19:00.239
1 score 16 pages.

638
01:19:00.239 --> 01:19:04.649
And then a 2nd, 300 field for the 2 parts.

639
01:19:04.649 --> 01:19:08.670
I would say that most.

640
01:19:08.670 --> 01:19:12.420
Music catalogs follow the 1st practice.

641
01:19:12.420 --> 01:19:17.189
The 2nd practice is more often seen.

642
01:19:17.189 --> 01:19:21.149
When the sizes of the scores.

643
01:19:21.149 --> 01:19:24.989
The size of the score does not match the size of the parts.

644
01:19:24.989 --> 01:19:33.000
So that when you put in the dimensions in the sub field, see, if they don't match.

645
01:19:33.000 --> 01:19:41.880
More often than not, you're going to see that separated out and so the score might be 2009 centimeters and the parts might be.

646
01:19:41.880 --> 01:19:47.220
36 centimeters, so it's more likely to see them separated out that way.

647
01:19:47.220 --> 01:19:52.649
Uh, the 1st usually assumes that they are the same size if you put them.

648
01:19:52.649 --> 01:19:56.369
Score plus parts in the Southfield day.

649
01:19:59.399 --> 01:20:07.920
Supplementary content not core in this case there are 3 commentaries.

650
01:20:07.920 --> 01:20:12.750
They are translations of the 1st commentary, which is in German.

651
01:20:12.750 --> 01:20:16.829
I actually, I suppose.

652
01:20:16.829 --> 01:20:25.350
And that a little lazy with for 1, because you can indicate that they are actually.

653
01:20:25.350 --> 01:20:37.289
Translations the English and French are translations of the original German, but in this case that that can stand.

654
01:20:37.289 --> 01:20:43.439
In the 4 1 plus includes commentary.

655
01:20:43.439 --> 01:20:47.100
In German, English and French, and the note.

656
01:20:47.100 --> 01:21:00.329
I will point out those are we're seeing it that the old 1, even though the English and French are translations, the 1st indicator is coded 0.

657
01:21:00.329 --> 01:21:11.604
Rather than 1, 1 is normally what we use for a translation because the score itself is non textual. There's, there's no some words here.

658
01:21:11.904 --> 01:21:24.984
So it's not actually a translation of the music. It's a translation of supplementary content. Therefore we still use 0.

659
01:21:25.319 --> 01:21:28.890
Uh, for the 1st indicator in the for 1.

660
01:21:31.079 --> 01:21:39.989
Duration duration is an interesting concept for scores.

661
01:21:39.989 --> 01:21:47.850
Duration makes sense for sound recordings of course, because sound recordings.

662
01:21:47.850 --> 01:21:58.229
Last a certain period in time duration is important in video recordings, because a movie might last a certain amount of time.

663
01:21:58.229 --> 01:22:05.279
But scores will often have an indication an approximation.

664
01:22:05.279 --> 01:22:12.300
Of how long the score should last, or how long the music should last when it is played.

665
01:22:12.300 --> 01:22:17.789
So, in this case, there is a dirt.

666
01:22:17.789 --> 01:22:21.779
Duration information.

667
01:22:21.779 --> 01:22:25.529
Approximately 7 minutes, this is appears in the score.

668
01:22:25.529 --> 01:22:30.659
And so we can record that in Mark.

669
01:22:30.659 --> 01:22:42.090
In the 3, 0, 6 for the duration, that's the standard way of writing out 7 minutes in the 3 6 and then we write a duration note.

670
01:22:42.090 --> 01:22:55.619
Uh, duration approximately 7 minutes again. This is not a transcription note. This is just recording the information. This is the standard way of recording.

671
01:22:55.619 --> 01:23:00.750
This information with minutes abbreviated. Am I on.

672
01:23:02.670 --> 01:23:07.859
So.

673
01:23:07.859 --> 01:23:14.250
Based on what we talked about in the previous 1, so what really what I wanted to.

674
01:23:14.250 --> 01:23:19.710
Talk about was what was different from this score compared to the previous score.

675
01:23:21.204 --> 01:23:26.364
So, here's all the information that was available on that score and we sort of flashed by it.

676
01:23:26.364 --> 01:23:39.564
And so I didn't point out every single 1 of these aspects, but much like the other 1, in this case, we had a, uh, 2 different kinds of numbers.

677
01:23:39.960 --> 01:23:52.079
The 1st, 1 being a p. C symbol, um, the next 1 being a music number, which we often find in a European publications.

678
01:23:52.079 --> 01:23:56.159
So you have 1 peering and the o4 2 O2 4.

679
01:23:56.159 --> 01:24:00.029
For Decatur 1 for the P. C. O2 4 2.

680
01:24:00.029 --> 01:24:05.460
For the music number, then we have a publisher number in the 2 8.

681
01:24:05.460 --> 01:24:09.779
4, 1, which is the languages of the.

682
01:24:09.779 --> 01:24:17.729
Commentaries the composers name in the proper authorized form.

683
01:24:17.729 --> 01:24:24.060
245 to 50 this 1 had a an addition note.

684
01:24:24.060 --> 01:24:28.050
So, we recorded that.

685
01:24:28.050 --> 01:24:31.079
Publisher and copyright date.

686
01:24:31.079 --> 01:24:37.079
As I said, it is optional to put these in 2.

687
01:24:37.079 --> 01:24:47.310
The 302 fields if they are the same size, I always preferred it this way. I always figure that this will get us to.

688
01:24:47.310 --> 01:24:52.079
The future system to break them up, but, um.

689
01:24:52.079 --> 01:24:55.199
Anyway, that's my preference. You can.

690
01:24:55.199 --> 01:24:58.199
Do it the other way as well?

691
01:24:58.199 --> 01:25:06.090
We have to 3, 3, 6, 307, 3, 3, 8 we have a duration note.

692
01:25:06.090 --> 01:25:10.260
The commentary note, staff notation.

693
01:25:10.260 --> 01:25:15.180
And here, we have the editor, we are using the authorized form.

694
01:25:15.180 --> 01:25:18.180
Of his name, plus.

695
01:25:18.180 --> 01:25:21.659
The relationship.

696
01:25:21.659 --> 01:25:24.689
designator editor.

697
01:25:24.689 --> 01:25:28.649
So, I see that there have been a bunch of questions. So.

698
01:25:28.649 --> 01:25:31.829
Let's take those on.

699
01:25:31.829 --> 01:25:46.710
All righty just a couple that haven't been answered. Scott. Quips asked but 2000 refers to title proper. Not the additional titled information. Could it appear in 245 delimiter a.

700
01:25:47.819 --> 01:25:57.510
That's a that's a fine question.

701
01:25:57.510 --> 01:26:04.829
Dates actually there, there is an answer and it is.

702
01:26:04.829 --> 01:26:08.729
Again, going back to partially how strange music is.

703
01:26:08.729 --> 01:26:12.180
So, let's go back to it.

704
01:26:15.600 --> 01:26:19.140
There it is, so.

705
01:26:19.140 --> 01:26:23.430
When we are cataloguing.

706
01:26:23.430 --> 01:26:28.739
A score and we are looking at the title proper.

707
01:26:28.739 --> 01:26:34.170
It's the title proper is.

708
01:26:34.170 --> 01:26:37.829
Um, a type of.

709
01:26:37.829 --> 01:26:42.689
Musical composition, so.

710
01:26:42.689 --> 01:26:51.750
Again, this will go into greater detail about this if you're in the advanced course. But, uh, if it is a, um.

711
01:26:51.750 --> 01:26:59.579
A type of composition, so, if it were, let's say, this was the title was simply Sonata.

712
01:26:59.579 --> 01:27:02.880
Or symphony or quartet.

713
01:27:02.880 --> 01:27:05.909
When you have a.

714
01:27:05.909 --> 01:27:10.229
Generic title in music.

715
01:27:10.229 --> 01:27:17.970
The date can appear data composition if it appears on the, the source.

716
01:27:17.970 --> 01:27:21.479
Of information can appear in the Southfield day.

717
01:27:21.479 --> 01:27:27.300
However, if the title is not generic.

718
01:27:27.300 --> 01:27:33.449
Then the date has to appear in the sub field date.

719
01:27:36.114 --> 01:27:47.784
And David will quote the information from where that 1 derived, but it's obscure but it is.

720
01:27:50.395 --> 01:28:00.984
But, uh, yeah, it is a peculiar peculiarity but if the title is not generic, but distinctive.

721
01:28:01.289 --> 01:28:05.579
And good to actually to, by itself.

722
01:28:05.579 --> 01:28:10.800
Would be a type of music, but because the title is goods and burn.

723
01:28:10.800 --> 01:28:16.739
It is considered a distinctive title therefore, the date has to appear in the sub field date.

724
01:28:16.739 --> 01:28:21.569
In a long time since I had to think about that 1, but Yep.

725
01:28:21.569 --> 01:28:26.670
Yeah, so if you go down to about 20 lines into the rule, it says.

726
01:28:28.284 --> 01:28:40.494
It explains it. Marsha explained it very well. David I'm going to need you for the advanced scores. I don't know. I don't know how to manage without you. Sorry I'm wrong for that.

727
01:28:42.055 --> 01:28:51.744
There was 1 other question when we flip over down to Santas, asked, our part's usually identified as such. How do you know if there are parts in addition to the score?

728
01:28:52.920 --> 01:28:57.750
That's a great question. So.

729
01:28:57.750 --> 01:29:01.140
And and wouldn't it have been great? If I.

730
01:29:01.140 --> 01:29:14.189
Had actually opened up 1 of these, the parts to show you what it is. So the difference between a score and a part is that a score will provide you with.

731
01:29:14.189 --> 01:29:28.109
All of the instruments that are playing at the same time. So, unfortunately, the only thing that I have up right now well, I kind of have it actually.

732
01:29:28.109 --> 01:29:33.210
With the Gatlinburg, so I just jump ahead to that. 1 for a 2nd.

733
01:29:33.715 --> 01:29:47.604
I think we have a little we have a little time, so I haven't seen it. Yeah. So when I so I provided us with this PDF where we're going to.

734
01:29:48.539 --> 01:29:52.949
Talk about in a 2nd, so.

735
01:29:52.949 --> 01:29:58.590
This is a score. This is a score for an, our casualties.

736
01:29:58.590 --> 01:30:02.430
Technically, a ballet, but we'll, we'll get to that in a minute. Um.

737
01:30:02.430 --> 01:30:16.975
And so, in a score, you're seeing all of the notation all of these instruments are playing at the same time. And so you're seeing them as say these notes are all expect to be played at the same time. And here, the clarinet does a little thing.

738
01:30:16.975 --> 01:30:31.555
And then the horn does a little thing, and these are different moments in time within the measures that said apart for clarinet would only include this part.

739
01:30:31.890 --> 01:30:40.890
For that, so none of this other music would be in that part, it would just be whatever the clarinet is playing that is what's.

740
01:30:40.890 --> 01:30:44.189
Available in the part, and the same would be true for the horn.

741
01:30:44.189 --> 01:30:54.899
Or the trumpet, or any of the other instruments. So so the way that you can so that a part would not look like a score.

742
01:30:54.899 --> 01:31:01.590
Is what I'm saying apart would just be the music for that particular instrument.

743
01:31:01.590 --> 01:31:07.020
To play, and not for to look at all the instruments playing at once.

744
01:31:07.020 --> 01:31:11.069
John, is that making some sense.

745
01:31:11.069 --> 01:31:15.779
To you. Okay. Good. Okay. Good.

746
01:31:15.779 --> 01:31:25.170
Go back catches up on questions for now. Hey, good.

747
01:31:25.170 --> 01:31:28.319
All right, so now we just have to.

748
01:31:28.319 --> 01:31:34.859
This is alone 1 more just pop in. So if a work is for a solo instrument.

749
01:31:34.859 --> 01:31:42.149
Can it still be called the score? Great question great question.

750
01:31:42.149 --> 01:31:46.829
And the answer.

751
01:31:46.829 --> 01:31:49.859
Is with the answer is yes.

752
01:31:49.859 --> 01:32:02.639
So, I won't go back to or to the answer is yes. So so when we looked at the 1st example, the 1st example was a work for piano that's 1 instrument and we called it a score.

753
01:32:02.639 --> 01:32:07.859
So so the answer is yes.

754
01:32:07.859 --> 01:32:12.689
A score can be for just 1 instrument.

755
01:32:12.689 --> 01:32:18.269
You really couldn't have a part though, for that score because it's for 1 instrument, but yes.

756
01:32:18.269 --> 01:32:27.088
If it's for 1 instrument, you would call it a score. If the work is meant for several instruments. And what you have is just.

757
01:32:27.088 --> 01:32:31.828
The music for that 1 instrument that is a part.

758
01:32:35.069 --> 01:32:41.038
Now, there are some cases in which.

759
01:32:41.038 --> 01:32:44.698
The parts that are issued with the score.

760
01:32:44.698 --> 01:32:47.698
Are actually scores.

761
01:32:47.698 --> 01:32:50.819
And David, I'm sure you've seen these.

762
01:32:50.819 --> 01:32:58.078
Where you might just be issued, let's say it's a work for.

763
01:32:58.078 --> 01:33:02.548
Or, let's say violin.

764
01:33:02.548 --> 01:33:10.288
And cello, and all of the scores are so when you buy it, you actually are buying 3 scores.

765
01:33:10.288 --> 01:33:23.578
Yes, that does happen sometimes. So they are identical. There are also times when you might find and get. This is not typical. This is pretty rare that you might find that you get these 3 scores.

766
01:33:23.578 --> 01:33:28.168
But I particular instrument that line.

767
01:33:28.168 --> 01:33:33.389
Is a little larger than the other 2, or might be bolded.

768
01:33:33.389 --> 01:33:48.118
And that's where it sort of crosses into the question of whether it's a part because clearly it was meant for, let's say, in my example, the cello part, the cello part in the cello part.

769
01:33:48.118 --> 01:33:53.639
Even though it's written out as a score it is a little larger.

770
01:33:53.639 --> 01:33:57.179
Then the other 2.

771
01:33:57.179 --> 01:34:11.038
I would not describe those as parts because they are in the end list, all of the instruments there, but the publisher decided to issue with that way, rather than having them separate it out.

772
01:34:11.038 --> 01:34:16.378
Sometimes it's more, depending on the the piece, it might be more useful.

773
01:34:16.378 --> 01:34:23.519
To all we see the other instruments to pick up queues as to when to come in or or.

774
01:34:23.519 --> 01:34:28.948
Something like that, but again, that's very rare. Most of the times you won't see that.

775
01:34:28.948 --> 01:34:34.708
Great explanation. Thanks Morris. Sure. I think we're caught up now.

776
01:34:34.708 --> 01:34:43.168
That's good because now it's exercise time so I don't know if anybody had a chance.

777
01:34:43.168 --> 01:34:47.939
To look over the score.

778
01:34:47.939 --> 01:34:51.689
To commit.

779
01:34:51.689 --> 01:34:57.029
So, there is a.

780
01:34:58.349 --> 01:35:01.859
Pdf that I made of the.

781
01:35:01.859 --> 01:35:06.118
Of 6 pages from the score.

782
01:35:06.118 --> 01:35:10.498
Which I just referred to earlier.

783
01:35:10.498 --> 01:35:17.488
So, hopefully everyone can.

784
01:35:17.488 --> 01:35:22.229
Access this those are the, the link.

785
01:35:22.229 --> 01:35:27.929
That came with it. Oh, and David's making it available. Thank you.

786
01:35:27.929 --> 01:35:31.618
If I can shrink this.

787
01:35:31.618 --> 01:35:35.158
Oh, even nicer now. That's great.

788
01:35:36.899 --> 01:35:40.408
Now, that's useful. Okay.

789
01:35:40.408 --> 01:35:50.849
So, you know, you should be able to if you click on the image, you should be able to scroll up and down on what Mars is displaying at least for that page.

790
01:35:50.849 --> 01:35:55.198
Yep, that's the whole thing.

791
01:35:55.944 --> 01:36:06.413
Rolling works, so so if you also reduce it, then you can actually see it at once. Don't need to do so much scrolling up and down.

792
01:36:07.073 --> 01:36:12.024
So, what I provided for you was the title page of the score.

793
01:36:17.069 --> 01:36:20.849
And I got to advance it again.

794
01:36:20.849 --> 01:36:27.538
There are there is a preface.

795
01:36:27.538 --> 01:36:36.689
There is a German translation of the preface.

796
01:36:41.908 --> 01:36:44.939
Here's the title page of the score.

797
01:36:48.479 --> 01:36:51.509
And here is the final page of the score.

798
01:36:51.509 --> 01:36:58.229
So, what I'm going to do now is I'm going to take.

799
01:36:58.229 --> 01:37:03.599
About 5 minutes.

800
01:37:03.599 --> 01:37:06.899
And have you.

801
01:37:06.899 --> 01:37:11.878
You want a piece of paper, or in your computer, whatever to take notes.

802
01:37:11.878 --> 01:37:18.238
Um, see, if you can identify some of the things that.

803
01:37:18.238 --> 01:37:22.859
We have talked about and.

804
01:37:22.859 --> 01:37:28.649
See, if you can identify some of the areas that we've talked about in the score.

805
01:37:28.649 --> 01:37:32.399
And see how you might map this out.

806
01:37:32.399 --> 01:37:36.149
And create a mark record.

807
01:37:36.149 --> 01:37:41.729
From what I've given you for this particular record I did see a question.

808
01:37:41.729 --> 01:37:47.488
About the title page, so the.

809
01:37:47.488 --> 01:37:50.969
So this is the title page of the score.

810
01:37:52.168 --> 01:37:56.219
This is page 1 of the score.

811
01:37:56.219 --> 01:38:01.918
The information here is what we would call the caption.

812
01:38:01.918 --> 01:38:07.738
Information, that's what we would appear on the title page.

813
01:38:07.738 --> 01:38:12.029
So, I'm going to give you all a.

814
01:38:12.029 --> 01:38:15.689
Till let's say 2.

815
01:38:15.689 --> 01:38:19.498
15 okay. Great.

816
01:38:19.498 --> 01:38:25.019
Well, I'll say 214 give it 214.

817
01:38:25.019 --> 01:38:29.698
And see see what she come up with.

818
01:41:05.878 --> 01:41:19.649
Okay.

819
01:43:45.149 --> 01:43:53.609
Okay, I think we're back like, it adds Chad.

820
01:43:53.609 --> 01:43:56.908
Okay.

821
01:43:56.908 --> 01:44:02.488
Here so, and I need to restart it.

822
01:44:02.488 --> 01:44:08.038
Okay, so Here's what I've got.

823
01:44:08.038 --> 01:44:14.279
And let me know if this matched, what do you had? So can I.

824
01:44:14.279 --> 01:44:19.168
Cheated a bit on the for 1, but, um.

825
01:44:19.168 --> 01:44:22.889
So, I have the commentary.

826
01:44:22.889 --> 01:44:27.569
English and German I have the very impressive.

827
01:44:27.569 --> 01:44:35.069
Authorized form of Mr. name.

828
01:44:35.069 --> 01:44:40.798
I have the.

829
01:44:40.798 --> 01:44:50.158
Uh, in the 245 look at that, some field be got the, the year right there in the beginning.

830
01:44:50.158 --> 01:45:01.529
Again, that's how it appeared on the title page. So I had it there. I suppose since it is a separate part of the.

831
01:45:01.529 --> 01:45:16.469
Separate in date information, the data is a separate bit of information so I could have put that at the end under behind for orchestra, but you could also keep it where it appeared on the page ballet and 5 acts is 1.

832
01:45:16.469 --> 01:45:24.658
Set of other information for orchestrated. The orchestration is another that's why they're separated.

833
01:45:24.658 --> 01:45:35.609
Colons, then the name, as it appears on the composer, and then followed by the and choreography by.

834
01:45:35.609 --> 01:45:39.868
Tell you, if you know anything about ballets.

835
01:45:39.868 --> 01:45:48.298
The is not necessarily what is song it is sort of the story behind the ballet.

836
01:45:48.298 --> 01:45:51.509
And he was also the choreographer when the ballet was.

837
01:45:51.509 --> 01:45:56.458
Performed in, in this case in Milan.

838
01:45:56.458 --> 01:46:01.109
So, I have the publisher information in this case, the.

839
01:46:01.109 --> 01:46:04.738
Year a publication appears not a copyright.

840
01:46:04.738 --> 01:46:13.649
Date on the title page, so that's what I used. 264. you wouldn't have known that it was 30 centimeters tall, but you would have known.

841
01:46:13.649 --> 01:46:17.668
That it is a score that is 205 pages long.

842
01:46:17.668 --> 01:46:29.309
Notated music on mediated volume. The caption says transcribed and edited by Morris as it is possible.

843
01:46:29.309 --> 01:46:39.538
And reasonable for you to have included it in the 245. if you wanted to again, the preference.

844
01:46:39.538 --> 01:46:42.779
Is that the information all appear from the same.

845
01:46:42.779 --> 01:46:48.149
Place and so, therefore, having that in the caption.

846
01:46:48.149 --> 01:47:02.939
You might not want to have put it there. You could have put it there in the 245. so, if you'll see in brackets, because it doesn't appear on the title page and that would be indicating that it appeared somewhere.

847
01:47:02.939 --> 01:47:08.609
Perhaps in the caption, perhaps on the website of the.

848
01:47:08.609 --> 01:47:12.958
The publishers, but in any case.

849
01:47:12.958 --> 01:47:16.948
I chose to put you put it here in a 500 note.

850
01:47:16.948 --> 01:47:21.359
Preface in English and German.

851
01:47:21.359 --> 01:47:25.529
Staff notation.

852
01:47:25.529 --> 01:47:29.939
As choreographer.

853
01:47:29.939 --> 01:47:35.309
And Morris Levy as the Transcriber and editor.

854
01:47:38.609 --> 01:47:43.078
I hope that.

855
01:47:43.913 --> 01:47:57.984
You your work looked someone like mine or if it if it didn't that this sort of gave you some suggestions. I see that there are a number of questions that arose from this again.

856
01:47:57.984 --> 01:48:00.953
This is a lot of this is a.

857
01:48:01.378 --> 01:48:05.819
Catalogs judgment, so your mileage may vary.

858
01:48:05.819 --> 01:48:10.319
Um, but let's take some of the questions that you have.

859
01:48:10.319 --> 01:48:19.889
Emily colored she asked Morris. What is your principal instrument? Well, my.

860
01:48:19.889 --> 01:48:26.338
Degrees are in, uh, music, history and theory.

861
01:48:26.338 --> 01:48:29.429
From Overland college.

862
01:48:29.429 --> 01:48:33.088
My master's degree is in folklore.

863
01:48:33.088 --> 01:48:36.359
With a specialization and ethnomusicology.

864
01:48:36.359 --> 01:48:42.149
From Indiana University my as a.

865
01:48:42.149 --> 01:48:48.748
The colleges I needed to have declared a secondary instrument, and that was voice.

866
01:48:48.748 --> 01:48:57.389
Thanks Scott. Do Chris asked? Would you put the Transcriber in a 250.

867
01:48:57.389 --> 01:49:04.859
You know, that's not necessarily a bad choice as as an editor.

868
01:49:04.859 --> 01:49:08.729
To put that.

869
01:49:08.729 --> 01:49:14.279
Uh, in the 250 field, I think that that would have been.

870
01:49:14.279 --> 01:49:17.338
A, certainly been an option to do that.

871
01:49:17.338 --> 01:49:20.849
David, what do you think.

872
01:49:20.849 --> 01:49:30.029
It wouldn't have occurred to me, but yeah, it does. It's a statement about this particular edition so yeah, I could see that as well.

873
01:49:30.029 --> 01:49:34.529
Yeah, again I think that.

874
01:49:34.529 --> 01:49:39.298
Because I think my tendency was.

875
01:49:39.298 --> 01:49:44.458
Oftentimes, and we can go, I'm going to go back to this slide but, um.

876
01:49:44.458 --> 01:49:47.578
You know, the, the editor information can come from anywhere.

877
01:49:47.578 --> 01:49:52.769
It doesn't have to come from the same source as the.

878
01:49:52.769 --> 01:49:55.769
The title information, it would be.

879
01:49:55.769 --> 01:49:59.458
Preferred if it did, but it doesn't have to.

880
01:49:59.458 --> 01:50:04.439
So, uh, so it'd be completely reasonable to do that, especially since, uh.

881
01:50:04.439 --> 01:50:10.859
The text uses the word edit so if, if it didn't use the word edit, I would, I would be.

882
01:50:10.859 --> 01:50:17.849
Less likely to do that, but no, I guess there's nothing that says, like, new addition.

883
01:50:17.849 --> 01:50:25.408
It it is a statement of responsibility, and I not used to seeing addition statements that are only a statement of responsibility.

884
01:50:25.408 --> 01:50:35.189
Yeah, but other than that, it seems logical. Thanks. 2 people ask, what would you do with score in C.

885
01:50:36.569 --> 01:50:46.288
Here's on, I believe page wireless car? Yes, it did. Some people would put score in see.

886
01:50:46.288 --> 01:50:50.099
As a note, a, in the 500 field.

887
01:50:50.099 --> 01:50:53.819
We wouldn't go.

888
01:50:53.819 --> 01:51:03.238
And score in see, it's certainly worth worth noting or it's also it's.

889
01:51:03.238 --> 01:51:14.849
For for, I think David would, but now, and some people who are more familiar with music scores that the original score that was transcribed from the 18 thirties.

890
01:51:14.849 --> 01:51:23.219
Um, was in various keys and so to put them all in the same key.

891
01:51:23.219 --> 01:51:28.139
See, so that everything matched up well, um.

892
01:51:28.139 --> 01:51:32.969
Because some of the parts were in different keys then C so.

893
01:51:32.969 --> 01:51:41.368
So, that's how it was transcribed. That's why that note is there to indicate that is not how it appeared in the original manuscript.

894
01:51:41.368 --> 01:51:45.719
But that would be a, it does not mean that's the key.

895
01:51:45.719 --> 01:51:50.998
I think that's that is worth noting that we're not saying that the pieces in the key of the.

896
01:51:50.998 --> 01:51:54.179
We're saying the score is in C.

897
01:51:54.179 --> 01:52:00.269
So so that could be a 500 note. I think that would be.

898
01:52:00.269 --> 01:52:03.418
That would be reasonable to record.

899
01:52:05.908 --> 01:52:09.689
Thanks 1 more question.

900
01:52:09.689 --> 01:52:15.328
Catherine leimert asks, could you use relationship? designator for taliani?

901
01:52:16.618 --> 01:52:23.399
That's a great question. Um, and I.

902
01:52:23.399 --> 01:52:30.868
And I believe the, my answer was no, because of how the is defined.

903
01:52:30.868 --> 01:52:38.759
If you look at the definition for what a is, the term is most often used.

904
01:52:38.759 --> 01:52:42.538
For someone who writes the text to sun music.

905
01:52:42.538 --> 01:52:50.759
That is how the is defined. So so that's why I said in ballet is the person who writes the story.

906
01:52:50.759 --> 01:52:58.229
For the ballet, but there doesn't mean that there's some music. That's why I did not use the brightest.

907
01:52:58.229 --> 01:53:06.958
In it, because how is defined bread is defined differently than how it is used in the context of ballet.

908
01:53:06.958 --> 01:53:13.588
So, I didn't want to if I saw the brightest, then I would assume that there was some music.

909
01:53:14.849 --> 01:53:19.048
Yeah, some of those definitions and the appendix really? You.

910
01:53:19.048 --> 01:53:33.868
How I think it's the same, but you have to look at them sometimes segue into the next question from Bobby who asks can you go over the 546 again? Why is the prefaced language? Not 546 sub field a.

911
01:53:33.868 --> 01:53:41.729
What 546 7, she'll be as information code or alphabet. How is that? Staff? Notation little confused.

912
01:53:41.729 --> 01:53:52.918
And you're not alone, Bobby, I'll leave you to that. 1. that that is a, a.

913
01:53:52.918 --> 01:53:57.328
No, I'll give that to David. I don't know.

914
01:53:57.328 --> 01:54:02.878
What should I know? Um, so 546.

915
01:54:02.878 --> 01:54:06.628
It is the Southfield be.

916
01:54:06.628 --> 01:54:09.988
Has been designated for for music again we.

917
01:54:09.988 --> 01:54:20.609
We use it in in language code. Obviously we would expect to 546 of field a, to be where the language of.

918
01:54:20.609 --> 01:54:24.569
The work or expression would be recorded.

919
01:54:24.569 --> 01:54:35.009
In this case, the score does not have a language. The music does not have language. It is purely or Castro.

920
01:54:35.009 --> 01:54:42.479
Therefore, that information needs to appear somewhere other than the sub field a.

921
01:54:42.479 --> 01:54:52.139
The fact that it appears in the field be, is that sort of shoehorn into it? I don't I leave that for greater minds of the mind.

922
01:54:52.139 --> 01:55:03.509
To be said, include some other things like the character set used, you could say I was going to say for rock tour, right? Or Cyrillic alphabet. If she has something that's.

923
01:55:04.524 --> 01:55:08.634
In German, but they somehow shoved it into Cyrillic alphabet. You'd want to note that.

924
01:55:08.694 --> 01:55:21.083
So your subfield day would be German yourself GLB would be Cyrillic alphabet very but and that and Scott is right that in the.

925
01:55:22.408 --> 01:55:36.809
The fixed field I'm going to say in the oh, wait, that would for purely instrumental works. They are coded as the execs and.

926
01:55:36.809 --> 01:55:49.198
And everything else, all the commentaries would not appear in the over 1, a quarter in the other field. So it's just been sort of standardized.

927
01:55:49.198 --> 01:55:55.559
That for music, it appears in the Southfield be the notation of it that there is no.

928
01:55:55.559 --> 01:56:08.788
So feel they used, and that's partly why it appears in capitals. I think you'll be normally well, frock tour. It's a German word, but normally it would not appear capitalized, but it is the, the 1st.

929
01:56:08.788 --> 01:56:15.838
Word in the 546 when there is no subfield days. So.

930
01:56:15.838 --> 01:56:20.969
I didn't make up these rules. I just followed them.

931
01:56:23.969 --> 01:56:35.969
If that answers folks, questions about the language coding, it doesn't, you can type in another question. I think we've tried to address them.

932
01:56:35.969 --> 01:56:44.038
And if you have other questions, we got 3 more minutes.

933
01:56:44.038 --> 01:56:48.418
Please contact me.

934
01:56:48.418 --> 01:56:51.868
Uh, that's my email address.

935
01:56:51.868 --> 01:56:55.798
And again, I want to thank you all.

936
01:56:55.798 --> 01:56:59.759
For your attention for your participation.

937
01:56:59.759 --> 01:57:07.229
I really appreciated the questions, as I said, I haven't been an active user catalog, or in 2 years.

938
01:57:07.229 --> 01:57:13.019
So this was a lot of fun for me to put on my music catalog or tap again.

939
01:57:13.019 --> 01:57:16.918
And try to pull some of these.

940
01:57:16.918 --> 01:57:21.208
Answers to your questions out of thin air so so.

941
01:57:21.208 --> 01:57:24.479
Thanks again to David and Kate.

942
01:57:24.479 --> 01:57:28.439
And Hayley for their support.

943
01:57:28.439 --> 01:57:34.168
In in making this happen, uh, for those of you, who are.

944
01:57:34.168 --> 01:57:40.588
Have strong constitutions. I'll see you in 30 minutes for the advanced score class.

945
01:57:40.588 --> 01:57:44.458
And David is there anything more.

946
01:57:44.458 --> 01:57:53.338
I just want to thank you for a great session. Morris appreciate all the ground you covered from the questions. I see. Folks got a lot out of it. So thank you.

947
01:57:53.338 --> 01:57:57.059
Well, thank you all and, uh.

948
01:57:57.059 --> 01:58:00.719
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