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Welcome to the all that. Good for the workshop on kit 3 D, materials and board games. This is David perhaska at the University of Akron and that would be your moderator for this session.

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Now, I would like to introduce your speakers for this workshop, which they have titled cataloging, funny formats during these strange times, which is a very apt title.

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Jessica, Jackie, is it wherever materials catalog or David Reuben staying where? Bucket manuscript library at Duke University in Durham, North Carolina. She has to be in linguistics from Duke University, and an, from North Carolina Central University.

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Your spare time she enjoys reading. What was the industries and true?

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Average preboard has been the music,

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a big cataloging library in Pennsylvania State University,

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since 1997 prior to that,

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he was the music cattle library and preservation library and at the University of Mississippi Barbara has a bachelor of Arts and music from Washington University and Topeka,

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Kansas master of music in history and literature from Kansas State University,

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and then state university has written articles on both cataloguing and music and has served on multiple committees for the music library Association.

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And for olack.

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Julie Renee Morris, the special collections catalog librarian for the Henry Madden library, California State University Fresno for M. A. L. I asked this from the University of South Florida.

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Julie has been working as a catalogue catalog librarian since 1989 in the sense of Florida.

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States of Florida, Alaska, New Jersey and California. She really gets around. Most of her publications have been about cataloging, working on several, all caps, the best practices practices documents.

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She has served as task 1st chair for cataloging objects using and Mark 21.

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Julie received all that Nancy B Olson award in 2010 she also received the 2020 Margaret man citation from a lot.

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Without further ado, let's walk him Jessica. Robert and Julie.

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And I will pass the ball to Jessica.

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You should be all set Jessica. Okay. Hello everyone just want to make sure everyone can hear me.

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So, thank you for coming to hear all about how to catalog objects.

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So, just some brief housekeeping, I'm going to be giving.

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A broad overview of the concepts involved in cataloging objects. Paul, Julie and Robert are going to talk about some specific format.

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So robert's going to do games of all kinds and julie's going to do kids naturally occurring objects and also microscope slides.

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To give you an idea of what's coming next.

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So, what we mean, by object.

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So, the word, the term is 3 dimensional forms stuff that you would use if you are going to, if you're going to searching the tool kit for guidance.

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So, that was centered in Julie bio.

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There's a wonderful document that we are all involved with and Julie steer headed.

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Uh, called the Alexa, best practices for cataloging objects using and Mark 21 is available at the link below.

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And so basically, the document tells you how to apply rba and Mark 21 environment. And this is what we're going to base our presentations off of.

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And the document is human detail that basically goes through.

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All the elements that you would use to construct a catalog record and obviously have lots of examples, lots of pictures and obviously our presentations can't cover.

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All the elements that you would ever use um, so we're just going to hit the highlight.

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So, you're gonna hear a lot, you've probably already heard this a lot of lack that all starts with cataloging judgments.

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Think you gave us the link.

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So just take us, for example, what is that? Is that.

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A question of, or at some level of objects.

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Is that archival collection? Is it a manuscript? Because you can see there's a.

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Scroll there basically it is up. There's no easy answer. It is. Up to you and your institutions, priorities and policies. How do you want to catalog thing?

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So, 4 objects, let's just say you've decided well, yes, I want catalog. This is an object.

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Hello.

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We've got 6 fields, sort of cheat sheet here.

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And I think we're all going to share some form of that. So basically some senior cataloging it or CLC connection.

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You're going to use the visual materials work form the type or the leader position. o'six is going to be our core 3 dimensional artifact or nationally current objects. It's how they define that. And then the type of material or the a session, 33.

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Use 1 of these 1 of these codes.

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Still in the field, if you have more than 1 object that you want to catalog together, you need to decide is it a collection or the SAS and so collections.

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Um, they're artificial grouping, because it could be it could have been assembled by collectors donors.

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For dealers, or even more often libraries archives themselves.

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And the anti slavery, desert, surface record and that.

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As record number 1 in the.

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From the handout, as an example of a collection model of record.

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And it was a collection level record, because it was, it was the symbols.

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Or accumulated by a collector.

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Demographically, speaking, those are produced or issued as a group by creators publishers, distributors manufacturers.

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So, in this case for objects, we're really considering say.

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A commercially distributed set of drill bits or a box of memorable posters and analogous to multipart monograph. In other words, a set of books.

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I just want to say a bit about the example record of.

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You know, just on the website.

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Oh, yes so yeah, exactly. There's a handout that has full records. All of.

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All of the examples that I did in the slides are taken from full full records, full Mark records. So, if you want to see what things look like in context.

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They're not, they're not just made up example.

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So, going on to the next area, jumping around a little bit in the organization of the record, but basically.

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Misinformation content, sharing, media types of going, be the same for all objects and the exceptions have a little asterisk there but I think that Julie is going to talk about both of those things part of the presentation.

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Those 2 exceptions, so, a little bit about creators. So, her already a 19.2.1.1.1.

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Corporate bodies cannot be creators, except in a few limited circumstances.

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Um, and you're gonna see a lot of corporate bodies associated with.

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Objects distributors manufacturers.

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Not sort of thing, but they're not they're not going to be creators often. Individual creators are identified.

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I mean, if it say, like, the handmade thing, there may be no, you may not know who the individual creator was.

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Therefore, many object records and a mark environment will be titled main entry. So, in other words, there's no 1, X X fields. You just start with the title.

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And you can record other agents such as designers manufacturers or commissioning bodies.

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Um, issuing bodies, distributors, that sort of thing.

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And you would just put those ad entries at a 7 XX skill.

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Hello.

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A brief word about titles titles will often be devised by the catalogue.

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Actually, I should back, you should take your title from the resource itself anywhere on the resource, but many objects are not going to have.

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We're not going to have there will not be a title, because you just have an object and I have to say, I'm a self reflection environment so most of my objects don't have their original packaging, or they never had packaging to begin with.

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So, there's really no sources, there's no source of title and I apologize for that. I think all of my examples, except 1 I have devised the title.

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I think Julian Robert is going to talk more about things that have a source of title with item, or on the item. So anyway, but often titles will be devised by the catalog.

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And if you're doing that, but you can also supply a title from an external resource.

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Such as the distributor's website or manufacturers catalog or reference source.

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If you are supplying or devising the title, don't bracket it.

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However, because of that, a note on the source of title is required.

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And you can see the sound and the example I had the title from that they came in an envelope from the distributor and so title from envelope.

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So, and and best practices document, we recommend using the 5, 8 fields for to record the source of title.

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So this next concept of kind of sticky. So I will probably pause.

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After this to add to take questions, and we built in a fair amount of time for questions, there are presentations. So.

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This is, like I said, is a bit of a sticky concept because.

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You're trying to apply print concepts to objects and forces us to do this, because you need to know if something is published or unpublished in order to know how to format your 264 field and to know where to record your data. And what.

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And what guidance you're supposed to, you're supposed to use.

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So, instead of published, it can be helpful to think of issued commercially distributed, manufactured, publicly advertised. Perhaps even offered for sale. I'm thinking a lot of the old things that I deal with that may not have their original packaging.

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We may have information about them from advertisements, and instead of unpublished think producer, that's already a term and they so they may be unique or handmade or for personal our private use.

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This is really analogous to the difference between a published book and manuscripts. Again, catalogs judgement applies here and your decision will often based on what you know, of your items, history and context.

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Getting to the publisher distributor in manufacturer areas.

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4 objects you can take information from anywhere on or in the resource.

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And you should record what you have from the resource.

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Bracket estimated information or information that are supplied from outside of the resource might say estimated like, you often estimate dates or perhaps geographic locations.

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Only supply readily africanity information and only if it was a user, if we phrase it that way, that way, you don't feel like you have to go doing extensive research and laborious links applied to 64 and 164, 2 entities and 64. 3.

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you don't have to do that only supply information if it will help the user or perhaps if you have institutional policy that providing certain kinds of information.

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And for notes on the source of information, that's catalogs documents you make a note if you think it would help the user, but you don't have to make excessive notes.

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For, um.

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Report what you have in the place where it makes sense. So this is something we really emphasize and the best practices guide.

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For print, print resources, we're so used to always.

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Supplying or providing or transcribing. Did you 64? 1 the publisher statement the concept of publication doesn't always really apply to objects. So maybe you have a manufacturer statement you record that in 264 3.

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So, in an example.

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Yes, Barbara says keeping in mind that the user sometimes your fellow librarians. Yes. That's definitely true. And yes, notes can be very useful for library and.

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But sometimes we want to know where you got the information from, even if the other, like the public paper and don't really care that much.

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So, anyway, record what you have in place, where it makes sense.

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And so in this in this record record number 4.

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For example, number 4, I mean.

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Date Amalgamated factor for America that.

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The manufacturer statement is taken directly from what is on the piece.

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Um, and in the publication statement, Massachusetts, women, separate association is also on the piece. That's exactly what's on the piece. And I have supplied the location and date based on what I knew about this organization.

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And I put it in and she's like, 3, 4, 1, because even though they're not like a traditional book publisher.

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They are they caused this resource to be.

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Created and issued and distributed I said, I had sort of a publisher role.

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And if there is no information on the resource supply, or devise 1 statement, when we say 1 statement, I mean, I guess you could supply or devise additional statements but.

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1 is 1 is necessary and sufficient.

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Supply the statement that makes the most sense. So.

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For example, a record number 3, I think that was the uncle Tom's cabin human, your steering.

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Information supplied the manufacturer statement of supplies from outside the resource.

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There was a makers mark on the item when I was able to look that up online.

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And get this information, and then for.

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And for the she's 54 field here.

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Sorry 264 1 this is from example, record number 5.

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So, that's when she kept and saucer I have.

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I supplied I took 64 1 once again because the women, social and political union.

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Was really acting in a yeah, they're not like they once they get a traditional book publisher, but.

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They cost us to be.

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Cause us to be produced and manufactured and distributed and supplying that information because we didn't really know.

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And then sometimes there is no information on the resource, and no information is available from outside the resource in that case, devise 1 statements.

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Sometimes you just don't really have any information for record number 6, which was a challenge that pilgrimage badge.

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You know, there was an information on the resource, the Internet didn't turn out much there wasn't any for information from the donor. So I had to assume it was from France, 19 century. Definitely. This question marks are there. So, I thought some questions come to you to chat.

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So let's pause here.

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And take a few minutes of questions, I think.

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All righty, the 1st question I see is 2 reasons the veer who asks, so it doesn't have our day open. Now it isn't the publication statement core manufacture statement, but not a publication statement.

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Okay. I knew people were going to ask about that and the answer is yes already technically says it's core, but we had very long discussions about this. We're creating our best practices guide and this went through.

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How do you pronounce the.

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Cataloging cataloging committee.

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I say Kathy yeah, so.

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Very lots of people wait in on this and so, yeah, the idea is basically that these.

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Publication is really important concept that does not really buy.

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2 objects, 3 dimensional forms and so, yeah, we are not.

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The best practices is not requiring, um.

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Is that requiring that you round up and provide a publication statement if all you have at the manufacturer statement or if.

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All you have is a distribution statement that is fine to supply that supply. That is what you should transcribe from the keys and that is what you should provide.

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Likewise, if you have a distribution statement, any manufacturer statement, I mean, go ahead and supply go ahead and transcribe both of them.

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Or record, both of them I should say apology is for getting my words next steps.

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Does that answer your question?

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We will have to yeah, isn't said makes sense to me. Thanks. Okay.

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Next question is from George,

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will the,

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he says regarding cataloging,

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happy cataloging of objects,

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is it ethical or best practice to make original record of resources identified from another record,

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but you think another source of information,

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but the better just apply it to 45.

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okay. Well.

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1 of those, we're not supposed to 2nd, guess either catalogs and so someone else has chosen a different source of information, different shapes source of information.

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And has created a record,

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and I'm assuming contributed perhaps to World cat or scatter,

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or something like that,

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especially if it's contributed to the world cat,

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you are not supposed to make a new record and then also contribute that new record that duplicate with effectively duplicate record.

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That's just a differentiate source of information, but obviously you can do whatever you want in your local catalog in terms of coffee cataloging. It would be fine to.

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You know, import that record and make your own local at it.

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That's my understanding of his policy as well. Thanks. If the record, sometimes if the record changes are very minimal to me, I will enhance it, but I won't add and then just record. Thanks, Jessica.

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Let's see another 1 from Jennifer page. What is the difference between capital? 3 dimensional form and 3 dimensional form.

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Ideally, it's actually going to get to that, but most forms are 3 dimensional forms and then tactile or things that were meant to be.

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Things that are meant to be a lot of times this is into the blind. So certain kinds of 3, Muslim quarterbacks form resources that are meant to be touched.

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Anyway, Julie, I think it's going to have a couple of examples and her from her presentation. Jessica, I also want to take a minute to say, if you want to post a question, please post it to everyone.

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If you post it to attendees, I won't say it and just a couple and see it so be sure. And pick everyone. Here's a question.

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Rita asks, what would you do if it's a found object and no real publisher or distributed distributor on it. Okay. So it's a naturally occurring objects. And Julie is going to cover that just has no information.

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Um, that is where you're gonna need to try and supply something, and I'm going to get produced. I'm going to get to unique points. That's my next slide.

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Perfect, I think that catches up. So that seems like a good segue want to go ahead.

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Okay, so yeah, so if you have an unpublished or produced in situation.

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And this case, my example is a 10 question, handmade embroidered pin question record number 7.

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Only, the date is required and that's.

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Saying all the data's required or an estimated date.

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Is often going to be the case.

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Supply location, if it is readily discoverable and otherwise try to estimate the country of origin. So it's okay to say United States customer and there's any, just supply producer not identified because honestly we need a producer. They would probably go on the 100.

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So, it's really just so he'll be pretty redundant and you don't have to.

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Have to put producer, not identified, so you can go.

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I forgot to had the question. You can go look at the record number 7.

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That the item.

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And.

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I think that down to me, that was actually interesting.

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I can't remember what the record number is, but that's an example a handmade object that is not unique. It's in.

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In addition of 100 was created for commercial distribution by the artist. So she had made a 100 specifically to.

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For them to be commercially distributed it's fascinating.

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So this is a little a little boring, but the 300 field contains a whole lot of different elements all mushed up to.

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And so.

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We want to for 300, you want to record the number of units and the type of units and there's a sense there's a list that you're supposed to consult.

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Or supply an appropriate term, you're always just going to supply appropriate term because we're talking about, say, 1, soon, once he 1 saucer 1, dessert service, they just supply whatever.

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Whatever term is appropriate for what you're saying actually, is the 300 field is repeatable and in my record for the cap and saucer.

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I just, you know, 1, 300 dollars once he has and 2nd vanderville 1 saucer.

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I just seem to make sense to do it that way. You can also record sub units of desired. Sorry?

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So, 1, desert service, parentheses, 10 dishes, you could also just report 10 dishes if you wanted to. In this case, they were Bill as being a desert service. So I use that term.

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And then the 300 stuff will be that includes base applied and support materials illustrations.

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The color and a variety of other things um.

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These elements can also be recorded in the 340 fields, using controlled of the capillaries.

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And if it can't be very available at that link, so, this gives you a lot of different options for reporting things. So example, the cost is the base material thread, the applied materials.

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White red and green are the colors, and in the 340 fields, I have used the.

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Already a control vocabulary.

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Tom's cabin, Stephen her soon just record number. 2 actually had to illustrate content. If you want to see how that looks with all the other all the other kinds of information.

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It's I don't see it.

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So record the dimensions of the form itself or record the dimensions that the container. I think none of my items had containers.

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So, apologies that Robin Julie are going to have examples of containers. I think it was going to talk more about how to how to measure the items and items themselves.

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Their objects and various sizes record, the dimensions of the largest and that's like, if they're not in a container Syria container record, the container size. But in case of my dessert service, I record the dimensions of the largest items.

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And actually.

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If that's another situation where you can use the 340, it's also record the dimension. So I recorded dimensions of the individual pieces. The 3 for you.

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Because you can use the field 3, say which piece.

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That applies to.

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Does John returns does not say anything about terms or subject heading.

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But all of my app and like, for getting.

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They have lots of terms for physical, real world items and all of my drama terms came from AC that I used this record.

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I want to close those notes. Notes are optional, except for the note on source of title.

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No, our best practices guide has a chapter. I notes the applied objects.

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Know, our stuff is weird notes help explain what is going on, but as always catalogues judgment on, which knows to make. So if it's an AV user, their institutional policy that you need to follow, and also don't stress about it.

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I think if people have questions, go ahead the questions in the chat, and I'm going to look out 1 of.

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I'm going to look at my records from the handouts and just say a little bit about why I liked it.

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And I think that, um.

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I'm on this record, I think if you guys are viewing it at home, should be able to.

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Scroll down, you should be able to scroll up and down and see the whole record.

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Yes, we can. Thanks. Okay, this is this is a certain service.

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And you can see here, this is what I mean, by title main entry.

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There's no personal creator so you just start with a 2.5.

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And here, once again, I.

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Estimated or devised, I guess, a publication statement.

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Because I really had to guess, but it was in England and I had to guess about the time period.

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Manufacturer statement, but just kind of rolled off the time.

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You know, manufactured in England once again, that's kind of leverage segment that's going to be based on what you know, about your piece.

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And here in the 300, I did 1, does our service 10 dishes, but again, you could have just done 10 dishes.

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Ceramic the colors, white and brown.

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I'd like to photograph. Yeah.

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The photographs are included in the handout and they're paired up with the record. This is.

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Is this kind of what it looks like.

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At the top, you can see the top 1 of the 1st, the 1st picture. You can see.

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That's called the highest.

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And you can see in the 340 area. This is 300.

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I'm using, what is it called?

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Party materials.

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And I've listed out.

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The place that we're a symmetrical play and the serving platter to give them their individual positions.

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There's really no way to do that. And if 300 field itself.

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With the 380 here, this is we've covered this successively in the guide.

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The word for it form of work.

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And then a lots of notes, because this is for special questions. So I had my notes just go on and on and on.

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And then I actually had some subject headings I've got Bible quotations and anti slavery movements, because other specific headings that really applied to the actual.

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And then my general terms, I think there were some more questions in the chat for to answer those real fast before we move on to the next. 1, is about this example Barbara asks, do you add a 56 in the record to a photo of the item?

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So, the photograph starts somewhere for for oh, I see. No, not for these. You definitely could. And obviously that'd be great if we always did that, but no, we do not have.

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We have not digitized these and we don't have have the images stored anywhere. I just take pictures. Actually 1 of my Co workers takes pictures.

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It turned out nicely. Teresa has a more general question is assigning call members to objects optional or mandatory.

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I don't know I'm pretty sure it's optional. Bobby wants to chime in.

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On that in the comments.

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I'm pretty sure it's optional. Are they certainly didn't say anything about call numbers and I don't think that we prescribed call numbers.

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While we're waiting, George will be asked what level should you use? Sorry it's growing very quickly to use if Nora 30 found for manufacturer or creator level level. I what's best practice? In this case.

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Well, if you are not coding at, then you can code it as a full level record and just do your best to formulate the.

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Authorized access point for well to formulate the heading in your 700 field, or your 710 field as though it were an authorized access point coming from the authority file. So you can follow the rules and Tude as to construct it.

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Even, if you are creating an authority record and contributing it to Nicole if that makes sense, that's the only records that have to be.

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Have to have all their headings controls you can have a full level record. That's not PCC.

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Thank you and both Julie and Jay White said call members would be optional and a local decision. Okay, excellent.

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That's the left of the questions. I see. If you have any last minute ones, you can pop them in oh, bobby's, not champion. And I think column was really dependent on your collection age. So, if you're using something that is not C or D. C.

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wouldn't have it and then another attendee asks, how do you determine what materials and object is made? Sometimes you just don't know. And that's okay.

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You don't know. You don't have to record it.

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But often you can take a guess, and already a material list is really good like, to give you some hints on where you should be thinking about because it's just like metal and it's like, you probably know if it's made out of metal.

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You don't have to get really specific and delight take me out of grass because maybe you don't know, but, like I said, you don't have to record it if you don't know.

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Oh, and so just heading and on our terms.

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Already, and that requires our doesn't say anything about but subject headings are done returns.

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Once again up more, if we're going to make it a VPC record.

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But, yeah, if you don't have to, I mean, I often just apply genre terms because a separate heading is not appropriate.

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Because it's a thing, it's not about something this example I had just had some such headings because it happened to be appropriate for this. But a lot of times that they're heading.

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Yeah, right they only they only apply. So well, I'd like to put in 1 plug. Tlc has traditionally used levels. Okay and I and a few others.

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Those are internal codes and they're going away. So, it would be good to start thinking about using blank or 7, and there's great documentation in the format guide. That's just a little aside. But thank you very much.

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Jessica, you probably ground we much appreciate it if you would go ahead and pass the ball on to Robert we look forward to his presentation as well.

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Thanks again.

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All righty I think I'm on muted.

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And hopefully you can, and hopefully you can see my my slides.

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Absolutely. Great. So thank you Jessica for doing a lot of the heavy lifting here. So I can now just.

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Deal with specific examples.

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And I also want to do a quick shout out to Julie for inviting me along today to present.

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And also, especially to autumn, they're 1 of the.

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People behind the scenes, because she suggested when she looked at my slides that I add some alt text.

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To help our visually impaired members and I apologize. I didn't think about that originally. So I have.

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Provided that for all the pictures so hopefully it'll be easier to follow up.

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So, because we're close to Halloween.

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I had, of course, go with all work and no play makes Rob adult catalogue or I take off on the line from the shining.

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And that I even found this kind of snowy though, it's not snow.

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Theme, but that's as close as I'm going to get to the book or the movie. So there's nothing else in here. You have to worry about.

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Sure, there we go. So the only real non example I'm going to deal with again is the fixed fields as Jessica talked about.

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And for everything, I will be talking about the type of visual material that Matt.

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Is going to be a g for game and here are the 2 definitions given by both.

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And then from the graphic formats and standards of.

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I must admit I like the 2nd, 1 better because it also.

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Mentions puzzles and simulations in case, you.

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Didn't know if that could be unfolded in or not.

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And before I get onto my examples, oh, what I should point out. All of the examples I'm giving are from my personal collection.

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So, if there's anything later that you have a question about, even after the.

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The presentation please feel free to email me and I'll try and get back to you on that. But 2 resources that I want to bring out.

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For, especially for cataloging games 1st, the.

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The website you see on your left is more game geek dotcom.

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And it's a wonderful location.

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Holding hundreds of thousands, if not thousands of thousands of games of all kinds.

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And it's also good for doing authority work, because you can find.

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Publishers you can find game designers, you can find game illustrators so if you're having problems other.

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Other places, this would be a good place to go another place that I definitely recommend. If you're researching games is go to Kickstarter. So many games.

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Only come to light thanks to.

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Kickstarter in fact, I know of several publishers that.

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That's the only way they're surviving. They, they do a Kickstarter for a certain game and that's all they supply and.

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It may or may not reach general distribution, but that is, those are the 2 big places you could go to indigo. That's another crowd funding site.

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But I don't see as many games there, so, both of these are excellent places to go when you're looking for information for your catalog.

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So, the 1st, 1, I want to talk about are the board games, and this is a very straight forward.

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Example, this is a relatively new game called calico.

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Where you are trying to create a quilt.

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You draft, or you pick patches to put in your quilt.

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And if you put certain.

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Colors or designs in the quilt, you will attract cats.

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Who will then give you extra points so the front cover let me see if I can get to the.

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So, the front that didn't try again, there we go.

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So, the front cover, we have the title, we have the game designer.

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We have the game publishers, and then back here, we have the list of all the contents.

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We have some publisher codes.

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And a nice description of what's going on in the game.

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That's not what I wanted. Go away. Let's see if I go to the next slide if it goes away.

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Yes, good.

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So here is my slide for the game.

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As Jessica said we're using type R and G, when we get that underway.

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I have started to use the encoding level blank.

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For a full level records.

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This 1 is pretty much full level. I don't have a call number because I was doing all of this from a borrowed laptop at home.

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And I don't have access to a lot of the.

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Tools that I normally would have in my office.

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So, such as class web, I don't have access to that right now. So trying to come up with call numbers was is a bit of a problem.

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But as you see, we've got a.

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Oh, 2, 4 and 2 8 for the, the publisher and numbers.

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The title with the game designer.

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I've got 2 264 264.

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Space ones for the 2 publishers, and then a 264 4.

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For the copyright date of the item, the 300 lists, all the pieces.

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The names there are what is supplied on the box, which is what I went with. So master quilter tile button, scoring tile that was from the box, the container.

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The 306 373 3, 8 are pretty much what Jessica described.

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Later on, I'm going to have a few different ones, but for most of the things, it's going to be the 3 dimensional form.

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unremediated an object I did put in the 3, 4 days for cardboard.

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Paper and tech style, uh, because those are the, the terms in the.

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Material and it is multi colored. So Chrome.

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I did put it in a 380 for board game. And are you what is 588 title from? Container.

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I saw a quick question.

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See.

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Thomas is asking, is it your preferred practice to list all the items in the 300 field, rather than a 5 X for games, or you tend to put everything in the 300 fields.

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If you wish to do it in a 5 x X, such as a format, 5 or 5 content.

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I normally do that more with sound recordings or video recordings, which is another.

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A format that I deal with on a regular basis.

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But for games, I usually try and put everything in the 300 field. That's just my.

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That's just my choice.

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I saw someone about age group, I think let me go to the next slide. I think I may actually have that. Yes.

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So, here's my 520 my summary note.

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And I took that from the container.

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If you wanted until you could probably tighten it up a little bit.

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But I just wanted to come up with something for a summary note.

379
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I do have ages it does actually estate and age range.

380
00:45:40.500 --> 00:45:44.340
It also states, how many players and a play time.

381
00:45:44.340 --> 00:45:49.230
And then I have done 1 650 for board games and.

382
00:45:49.230 --> 00:45:55.320
The designer and the 2 publishers so, again that was pretty straight forward.

383
00:45:55.320 --> 00:45:59.280
But next 1 is.

384
00:45:59.280 --> 00:46:02.909
Technically straightforward, but.

385
00:46:02.909 --> 00:46:07.320
We need to get this out, but this is the top of the box.

386
00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:11.699
And this is the bottom of the box. This is a game called Project L.

387
00:46:11.699 --> 00:46:15.750
Which you use puzzle pieces.

388
00:46:15.750 --> 00:46:20.849
Little squares or right angles. It kind of reminds you of Tetras.

389
00:46:20.849 --> 00:46:24.719
And you have to fill in the.

390
00:46:24.719 --> 00:46:32.219
The cards that you get, it's, it's kind of like Tetras meets 10 grams. If that makes any sense to folks.

391
00:46:32.219 --> 00:46:37.320
So, but this is what the box looks like. So I actually went.

392
00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:44.670
To bargain cake and they're listing for the game just calls it project. L.

393
00:46:44.670 --> 00:46:48.000
So that was my choice.

394
00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:53.849
I see someone. Is there a preferred source of title?

395
00:46:53.849 --> 00:47:02.219
For board games, I think, as Jessica mentioned earlier, you want to take it from the container. I usually take it from.

396
00:47:02.219 --> 00:47:07.500
The, the, the, the container itself, but.

397
00:47:07.500 --> 00:47:13.380
You can take it from the rule book. I think any portion of the game.

398
00:47:13.380 --> 00:47:18.630
You can take the title from and if you can't, if you don't find something, you can supply a title.

399
00:47:18.630 --> 00:47:22.920
Either from another site or.

400
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:26.280
If worst comes to worse, you can supply something.

401
00:47:26.280 --> 00:47:33.929
Yourself so 1 other question came in about this if you want.

402
00:47:33.929 --> 00:47:42.420
As long as you're taking questions, I'm sherry asked since this is not about board games. Should it be a 655 blank? 0.

403
00:47:42.420 --> 00:47:45.570
Um.

404
00:47:45.570 --> 00:47:52.440
It could, it could have been, um, like I said, unfortunately, I didn't have access to my class web.

405
00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:57.030
And everything where I could go in and find form jandra terms to double check that.

406
00:47:57.030 --> 00:48:01.949
These things also exist to this form shaundra and not just as Elsie subject heading.

407
00:48:01.949 --> 00:48:09.719
So, I would go in there and look, I covered so many different formats much like my colleagues here that.

408
00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:14.760
I don't memorize specific things. I just memorize where I need to go to find out.

409
00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:18.480
So, thanks, Rob, that makes sense.

410
00:48:18.480 --> 00:48:26.010
So, I think we're caught up on questions. Okay. So moving on this was the record I came up with.

411
00:48:26.010 --> 00:48:33.269
I went with project L. I decided not to go with L. just because that seems so.

412
00:48:33.269 --> 00:48:37.590
In general, I didn't see how it would actually help anybody.

413
00:48:37.590 --> 00:48:43.440
But I do point out, I think on the next slide that I took it from the back of the container.

414
00:48:43.440 --> 00:48:48.420
And I have it, it's a game by these 3.

415
00:48:48.420 --> 00:48:54.630
I think they're all men, but I'm not sure. So to say these 3 people.

416
00:48:54.630 --> 00:48:58.110
It came from the Czech Republic.

417
00:48:58.110 --> 00:49:02.309
Here's the game it covers so many puzzles.

418
00:49:02.309 --> 00:49:10.679
So many pieces you get a player, Matt, and again it's 3 dimensional animated object with some cardboard.

419
00:49:10.679 --> 00:49:14.639
And then title from the back of the container.

420
00:49:14.639 --> 00:49:18.840
And a very precise definition.

421
00:49:18.840 --> 00:49:25.170
But the summary note of what it's about again, I do have an age range player range.

422
00:49:25.170 --> 00:49:30.960
And the rule book itself was in all these different languages. So I wanted to bring that out.

423
00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:39.599
And then some board game, but it's also puzzling. So I wanted to bring that out as a subject heading.

424
00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:43.170
And then all of these added entries.

425
00:49:43.170 --> 00:49:46.920
So.

426
00:49:46.920 --> 00:49:51.329
The next thing I want to briefly touch on.

427
00:49:51.329 --> 00:49:54.900
Is about additions for games.

428
00:49:54.900 --> 00:49:59.340
Here is a great example that I have. And in fact, it's a.

429
00:49:59.340 --> 00:50:03.869
It's a wonderful game called role for it. And if you can see the back container.

430
00:50:03.869 --> 00:50:07.500
Every player gets a set of, I think, 6 and dies.

431
00:50:07.500 --> 00:50:11.460
You turn over a card, your roll your dice and you try and match.

432
00:50:11.460 --> 00:50:20.400
The dye faces to the card, and if you match it completely, you get the, you get that card and the points and the 1st player to.

433
00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:25.559
I think collect a certain number of cards triggers the end of the game and then you just count up the points.

434
00:50:25.559 --> 00:50:31.980
Interestingly enough.

435
00:50:31.980 --> 00:50:42.809
The original role for it, I could have also done an edition statement because it was issued in 2 different packagings 1 in purple and 1 in red.

436
00:50:42.809 --> 00:50:47.489
And I believe the red copy head.

437
00:50:47.489 --> 00:50:51.449
Slightly clear dice.

438
00:50:51.449 --> 00:50:55.320
And the purple copy had what they called, Pearl, or.

439
00:50:55.320 --> 00:51:01.829
Truly opaque dice. So that was another 1 and in that case, there's nothing on.

440
00:51:01.829 --> 00:51:05.460
The boxes that say, you know, different additions.

441
00:51:05.460 --> 00:51:11.760
So, if I was to do an addition statement for those, I would probably do purple edition or red edition and.

442
00:51:11.760 --> 00:51:18.150
Make it in the 588 edition statements applied by catalog. These are a little more straightforward. Thankfully.

443
00:51:18.150 --> 00:51:23.820
So, going again to board game geek here is for the role for it. The last addition.

444
00:51:23.820 --> 00:51:27.030
Now, interestingly enough, if I can highlight here.

445
00:51:27.030 --> 00:51:30.659
Alternate name was rolfer it Jen.

446
00:51:30.659 --> 00:51:36.630
Because Jen is a major is a, I think Barbara just pointed out.

447
00:51:36.630 --> 00:51:40.320
It is a major, uh, gaming convention here in the United States.

448
00:51:40.320 --> 00:51:44.670
And, in fact, the gym edition came out, I think.

449
00:51:44.670 --> 00:51:49.500
Before the deluxe edition, they had such a great.

450
00:51:49.500 --> 00:52:02.460
I think they sold very well at Jenn con and people sought them out. So they said, hey, we'll just make a regular Deluxe Edition. I was doing that in quotes, but they're basically the same thing. Just.

451
00:52:02.460 --> 00:52:06.329
Slight differences in packaging to bring that out.

452
00:52:06.329 --> 00:52:13.409
So, on to the record for the, the, the regular shall we say.

453
00:52:13.409 --> 00:52:18.809
It's all here, I've got the 264 for CLP the games.

454
00:52:18.809 --> 00:52:23.010
And a 2nd 264 for a copyright date.

455
00:52:23.010 --> 00:52:26.159
There is the game all the pieces are listed.

456
00:52:26.159 --> 00:52:31.349
3, 3 X fields haven't really changed much.

457
00:52:31.349 --> 00:52:35.789
Title for container I went with and.

458
00:52:35.789 --> 00:52:47.579
I move to the next 1 the only real difference here is a 520. this was from the board game geek site, but had time I'd really thought about, I could have probably parent that down a bit.

459
00:52:47.579 --> 00:53:00.119
I know, like, a few years ago, had a task course looking at summary notes and I'm sure members of that test scores are rolling their eyes at the size of that summary note. But anyway.

460
00:53:00.119 --> 00:53:06.360
And then just to show the the main changes I would make.

461
00:53:06.360 --> 00:53:10.199
For the other version is.

462
00:53:10.199 --> 00:53:15.179
It looks very similar, but I've changed the 250 to a gym connotation.

463
00:53:15.179 --> 00:53:21.329
I actually put in a note saying what this was a special edition produced for release a Gen com.

464
00:53:21.329 --> 00:53:27.389
And I even put in a 611 to bring out to tie this in that it's for John.

465
00:53:27.389 --> 00:53:30.539
So.

466
00:53:30.539 --> 00:53:34.860
Um, but in this case.

467
00:53:34.860 --> 00:53:41.789
These are other another game code names is a wonderful party game.

468
00:53:41.789 --> 00:53:48.179
Where you are a spine master, and you are trying to communicate with your agents.

469
00:53:48.179 --> 00:53:56.070
By giving them clues, and hopefully they will choose the right word that you're trying to get to.

470
00:53:56.070 --> 00:54:00.000
Or in the case of code names, pictures, they will choose the right.

471
00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:07.800
Picture and if you choose your agents, you keep going until you can win.

472
00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:13.139
If you choose enemy agents, then your turn is over, lose to your opponent.

473
00:54:13.139 --> 00:54:24.239
You choose the kind of white or tacky ones. I'm not I can't quite sure see from here. Those are innocent bystanders and you've lost your turn.

474
00:54:24.239 --> 00:54:30.239
And then what you don't want to hit is, there's a black card. That's the assassin. If you reveal the assassin.

475
00:54:30.239 --> 00:54:33.659
You're lost the game is over your opponents, right?

476
00:54:33.659 --> 00:54:38.159
But so we have code names and then we have code names pictures. Now.

477
00:54:38.159 --> 00:54:43.079
Moving on, this was the listing of all of the variance.

478
00:54:43.079 --> 00:54:47.579
Of code names, it's become very popular, so there's code names pictures.

479
00:54:47.579 --> 00:54:54.869
There's codenames do due at, which was I, I believe an attempt at a 2 player only version.

480
00:54:54.869 --> 00:55:04.650
And then, you see, there's like Marvel and Disney, and I think there's a Harry Potter version that's been out too. So I, I'm not thinking of these.

481
00:55:04.650 --> 00:55:08.309
As a different additions I'm thinking.

482
00:55:08.309 --> 00:55:12.570
That the term is such as pictures is.

483
00:55:12.570 --> 00:55:16.170
Has to be part of the title, so.

484
00:55:16.170 --> 00:55:21.090
The base again, and this was a record I found in and.

485
00:55:21.090 --> 00:55:24.179
I've added a few things and, uh.

486
00:55:24.179 --> 00:55:32.789
Changed a few things around, but I didn't actually do that in. So, Jay don't don't worry. I haven't touched that record.

487
00:55:32.789 --> 00:55:35.880
Um, and.

488
00:55:39.960 --> 00:55:48.119
I saw something from, I think, Jeanette. Oh. And I didn't quite see it was all about the deluxe, uh, about a deluxe edition.

489
00:55:48.119 --> 00:55:53.429
Different several questions if you want to take a break action. Yeah, that's true.

490
00:55:53.429 --> 00:56:00.269
About 10 center you want to continue. Let me finish this. And before I go to the next example, then.

491
00:56:00.269 --> 00:56:04.079
Then I'll stop for questions, right?

492
00:56:04.079 --> 00:56:08.369
So here is the code names, everything pretty much as we've.

493
00:56:08.369 --> 00:56:11.369
As I've talked about before.

494
00:56:11.369 --> 00:56:20.489
And the only change then for the, the other 1 I had was I made pictures part of the, the title.

495
00:56:20.489 --> 00:56:28.110
And, of course, the age range actually changed between the 2 copies and then I changed the.

496
00:56:28.110 --> 00:56:32.730
Summary know, to reflect that you're dealing with images and not words.

497
00:56:32.730 --> 00:56:38.969
Now, I believe that's the end of that. 1. I'm going to move ahead and then we can stop for.

498
00:56:39.565 --> 00:56:53.574
Questions okay, very good. Kathy. Lots asked if the game itself has no text that there is text elsewhere. How do you code the fixed field language? Z, X plus 41.

499
00:56:53.574 --> 00:56:55.074
sorry the.

500
00:56:57.480 --> 00:57:00.599
If the item doesn't have.

501
00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:04.380
Any text on it itself.

502
00:57:04.380 --> 00:57:09.719
And there is no accompanying rule book or anything.

503
00:57:09.719 --> 00:57:13.530
Then I think you could probably do the execs.

504
00:57:13.530 --> 00:57:19.559
But if there isn't a coming rule book, I have an example later that.

505
00:57:19.559 --> 00:57:26.010
While there are, there is some text on it. It's mainly a stand alone.

506
00:57:26.010 --> 00:57:33.570
Game and so there is still a place to get that has.

507
00:57:33.570 --> 00:57:40.860
Language the real book, so you could do that if there was nothing else and then.

508
00:57:40.860 --> 00:57:48.329
If you want to a publisher site, and they provided rules that that sounds perfectly fine to me.

509
00:57:48.329 --> 00:57:51.960
Thank you.

510
00:57:51.960 --> 00:58:05.905
Andrea asks and the role, for example, the 300 had a subfield tree for 1 game sheet that because it is that part of the game, but in addition to it or the game without that kind of thing yeah.

511
00:58:07.619 --> 00:58:12.900
Some of the times I've noticed, um, usually when I'm creating a record, I have put.

512
00:58:12.900 --> 00:58:19.050
Everything that's in the record in the, the 300 a, but some people.

513
00:58:19.050 --> 00:58:27.210
For rule books and game sheets will put that as a company material in a subfield. E, and I believe.

514
00:58:27.210 --> 00:58:30.690
That may have been the record that I.

515
00:58:30.690 --> 00:58:34.710
I took and adapted from all. Clc may have done that.

516
00:58:34.710 --> 00:58:38.849
Either way, it's fine. However, you wish to do it.

517
00:58:38.849 --> 00:58:51.690
Okay, thank you Jeanette. How asked for the previous example on the deluxe edition? Should there be a note saying this addition statement came from the website.

518
00:58:51.690 --> 00:59:00.929
If it's not taken from the piece, I thought, um, excuse me, if I go back, but I thought it actually said.

519
00:59:00.929 --> 00:59:08.250
Deluxe edition on it, I think, right into role for it toward the bottom.

520
00:59:08.250 --> 00:59:11.550
Here, I think it says to maybe.

521
00:59:11.550 --> 00:59:14.550
I think it says, yeah, this, I think says Deluxe Edition.

522
00:59:14.550 --> 00:59:18.090
And that says, jailcon edition, it's hard to see.

523
00:59:18.090 --> 00:59:24.300
But I do believe it's actually on the item if it wasn't on the item, then yes, I would make a note.

524
00:59:24.300 --> 00:59:27.690
Saying addition statements supplied by catalog.

525
00:59:27.690 --> 00:59:31.559
That makes sense, thank you.

526
00:59:31.559 --> 00:59:39.599
Involve the staff I include pictures in delimiter B rather than delimiter. P. or is it part of the sub field? A.

527
00:59:39.599 --> 00:59:48.719
If all of them were card games alone and some field. A, wouldn't you also need a 1 for you to break the conflict between the titles? All being the same under our.

528
00:59:48.719 --> 00:59:55.199
That definitely is something to think about. I think I went with.

529
00:59:55.199 --> 00:59:59.489
Will be for the pictures rather than some peel some field P.

530
00:59:59.489 --> 01:00:07.949
Because I thought just Pete pictures on its own wasn't going to help folks very much if it wasn't tied to code names.

531
01:00:07.949 --> 01:00:14.610
That was my catalog of judgment about it much like project L. you could do a.

532
01:00:14.610 --> 01:00:20.130
An added title for L but I didn't know how useful that would be.

533
01:00:20.130 --> 01:00:25.860
Again, that was just my my judgment on it if you wanted to do it the other way, then.

534
01:00:25.860 --> 01:00:29.639
I see what no reason you couldn't.

535
01:00:30.324 --> 01:00:42.715
Thanks 1 more question to get us caught up. Steven asks all of the examples shown so far have titled main entry in the records that more likely for games statements like a game by.

536
01:00:43.315 --> 01:00:46.644
You would not consider putting a person's name in a 1 x x field.

537
01:00:47.130 --> 01:00:53.489
I some people do, some people have put them in the 1 XX field.

538
01:00:53.489 --> 01:00:58.320
My thought has always been for most games.

539
01:00:58.320 --> 01:01:01.650
It's much like a video.

540
01:01:01.650 --> 01:01:04.980
A lot of people were involved in the creating of it.

541
01:01:04.980 --> 01:01:10.289
And so, I don't know, I personally don't normally use 1 axis for games.

542
01:01:10.289 --> 01:01:17.940
Because there is the game designer, but there's also the illustrator, the people that wrote the rule books, the people that ended the role books.

543
01:01:17.940 --> 01:01:22.199
So, I tend to just make them.

544
01:01:22.199 --> 01:01:27.090
I don't tend to use 1 axis and I put everything in 7 execs. That is just my.

545
01:01:27.090 --> 01:01:32.159
Personal preference having worked with.

546
01:01:33.179 --> 01:01:39.840
Videos and films for such a long time that I just have always done it that way.

547
01:01:39.840 --> 01:01:43.440
Uh, if there is a game where the person.

548
01:01:43.440 --> 01:01:47.849
Created it illustrated published it manufactured everything.

549
01:01:47.849 --> 01:01:52.199
Then you could do, then you might want to do a 1 x X.

550
01:01:52.199 --> 01:01:56.159
But that was that was my take on it.

551
01:01:57.505 --> 01:02:10.255
That makes sense, thank you. Ethan asks for the 300 field. You use the terms identified in the game itself for the game piece for the game pieces or would you sometimes substitute and more common term?

552
01:02:11.219 --> 01:02:17.550
I tend to go with the terms used by the game designer.

553
01:02:17.550 --> 01:02:29.039
I have in a previous situation, I've gone with the terms used by the game designer, and then 1 of our reference librarians wanted me to change it to something else.

554
01:02:29.039 --> 01:02:33.210
I just plugging why I was doing it this way, but.

555
01:02:33.210 --> 01:02:38.760
Seeing, they're on the front line, I think I ended up doing something with the local record.

556
01:02:38.760 --> 01:02:44.039
So that they were happy, but I, yeah, I tend to go with what's listed.

557
01:02:44.039 --> 01:02:47.309
Either on the container, or in the rules.

558
01:02:48.324 --> 01:03:02.965
That can be my candidate. Oh, yes. That touches ASAP. We have a few more minutes. If you want to cover a little more territory. That'd be great. Okay. I'm going to try and go rather quickly. The rest of these you can find will do card games.

559
01:03:03.239 --> 01:03:08.639
This was a little game that was on Kickstarter called hipsters and hamsters.

560
01:03:08.639 --> 01:03:12.000
It's basically to player.

561
01:03:12.000 --> 01:03:19.349
You 1 of you plays the hipster and you try and get rid of all your cards and 1 of you place the hamster.

562
01:03:19.349 --> 01:03:33.119
And if you have, I think I'm 6 cards, because I guess hamsters or quarters. So the 1st person to accomplish their task of either 1 gets 6 cards or 1 gets rid of all their hand and they win the game.

563
01:03:33.119 --> 01:03:36.210
And this 1 was nice enough to actually have.

564
01:03:36.210 --> 01:03:42.449
An edition statement on the box, so moving right along here is the listing.

565
01:03:42.449 --> 01:03:46.619
On board game, Keith peak and.

566
01:03:46.619 --> 01:03:49.739
The 1 thing I, I will point out and.

567
01:03:49.739 --> 01:03:53.909
You can do this.

568
01:03:53.909 --> 01:04:01.889
I'll point that out in my record when I get to it while at the bottom of the, the deck.

569
01:04:01.889 --> 01:04:08.969
There's a website listing that you could go to that website is no longer.

570
01:04:08.969 --> 01:04:18.840
Useful it's no longer current so that wasn't any use. So I went to board game geek, which they listed everything and I also went to the Kickstarter page.

571
01:04:18.840 --> 01:04:27.329
Which gave me such as the last updated. So I know the game was like, in 2016 I believe it also listed that on the.

572
01:04:27.329 --> 01:04:35.820
For getting gig page, but here is you can see hipsters and that's a plus but then they're calling it hipsters and hamsters.

573
01:04:35.820 --> 01:04:43.170
So quickly I went with hipsters enhancers as the title I did to a title from container.

574
01:04:43.170 --> 01:04:48.269
With the plus you could go ahead and do hipsters plus hamsters but.

575
01:04:48.269 --> 01:04:56.369
I couldn't find anywhere on the, the game itself, or on the board game geek where they referred to it as hipsters. Plus hamsters.

576
01:04:56.369 --> 01:05:01.320
So, I didn't actually spell it out as another title of hipsters bless hamsters.

577
01:05:01.320 --> 01:05:06.989
And then I'm going to quickly go to just regular playing cards.

578
01:05:06.989 --> 01:05:12.360
I bought this for my wife a few years ago, who is a massive Princess bride fan.

579
01:05:12.360 --> 01:05:15.659
And.

580
01:05:15.659 --> 01:05:20.309
And this is a little blurry, but this was the bottom of the box showing the manufacturer.

581
01:05:20.309 --> 01:05:26.429
And the designer, and it's a company called albino Dragon.

582
01:05:26.429 --> 01:05:33.719
And if you go to their website, they actually gave it a title as the princess bride as you wish playing cards.

583
01:05:33.719 --> 01:05:36.719
And.

584
01:05:36.719 --> 01:05:42.599
I I went, this is the picture page because right down here.

585
01:05:42.599 --> 01:05:45.630
The last updated.

586
01:05:45.630 --> 01:05:55.349
Gives me the, the date that I use, because unfortunately there is no working geek listing for the playing cards.

587
01:05:55.349 --> 01:06:00.000
There is a stand alone board game called the princess bride as you wish and.

588
01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:03.989
That that is definitely not what I'm dealing with here.

589
01:06:03.989 --> 01:06:07.980
So, I had to go to the Kickstarter to find the last date.

590
01:06:07.980 --> 01:06:18.719
And add that, and unfortunately, albino dragon at their website doesn't tell me where they're from and it wasn't there, but I did go to Twitter feed and find out. They're in Austin, Texas.

591
01:06:18.719 --> 01:06:23.010
So, based on all of that, I could come up with Austin, Texas.

592
01:06:23.010 --> 01:06:31.769
Probably, as where the publisher's from the manufacturers, the United States playing card company in Kentucky.

593
01:06:31.769 --> 01:06:35.519
And I think everything is there I.

594
01:06:35.519 --> 01:06:39.030
Let's see, Where's my they're okay.

595
01:06:39.030 --> 01:06:53.610
Yes, the prince, I put Princess bride playing cards because it just says the princess bride on the container, but then for the publisher's website, I spelled it out as Princess bride as you wish playing cards.

596
01:06:53.610 --> 01:06:58.320
That was the way I choose to do it. If you had chose to do it.

597
01:06:58.320 --> 01:07:04.469
The other way, and just have the title from the publisher's website. I think that would also be fine.

598
01:07:04.469 --> 01:07:07.500
Hello.

599
01:07:07.500 --> 01:07:10.590
I think I'm almost I have a few more, but.

600
01:07:10.590 --> 01:07:14.250
I let me go ahead and stop because with this 1, because.

601
01:07:14.250 --> 01:07:18.360
So, we have time.

602
01:07:18.360 --> 01:07:23.250
What, for something else? This is a cribbage board.

603
01:07:23.250 --> 01:07:32.369
My apologies to anyone who's color blind. This was the only copy I had and so it's in red and green and that's not good.

604
01:07:32.369 --> 01:07:35.909
I think most the.

605
01:07:35.909 --> 01:07:42.389
Now, being made are like, blue and red or another different color combination to help help out folks.

606
01:07:42.389 --> 01:07:49.289
But it does here it does say oil and there is a number.

607
01:07:49.289 --> 01:07:53.099
So, I could add that information.

608
01:07:53.099 --> 01:07:59.190
So, I came up with this, I did go to boarding geek.

609
01:07:59.190 --> 01:08:02.550
And looked at oil, and they're supposedly based in St Paul.

610
01:08:02.550 --> 01:08:14.159
So, I added that I guesstimated the date. I couldn't remember when I got this privilege board, it's been a long time. And unfortunately any container that had had is long gone.

611
01:08:14.159 --> 01:08:18.449
But, uh, so, yeah, I supplied the ta, the.

612
01:08:18.449 --> 01:08:25.739
The catalog of the title, because there wasn't anything. I know. It's a cribbage, but that's it. And.

613
01:08:25.739 --> 01:08:29.340
Oh, I forgot I'm going to back up real quick.

614
01:08:29.340 --> 01:08:33.420
To the cards, because I forgot to point out.

615
01:08:33.420 --> 01:08:38.279
We changed I changed the 3 XX fields.

616
01:08:38.279 --> 01:08:42.239
For cards to a still image and.

617
01:08:42.239 --> 01:08:46.170
Card, rather than the 3 dimensional form, cause.

618
01:08:46.170 --> 01:08:50.609
And I wanted to make sure I caught that.

619
01:08:50.609 --> 01:08:53.609
Okay.

620
01:08:53.609 --> 01:08:59.010
I had a few more, but we're getting towards the end and I want to leave room for a break and.

621
01:08:59.010 --> 01:09:03.300
julie's portion of the presentation.

622
01:09:03.300 --> 01:09:11.130
If after you look at the rest of the slides and you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me.

623
01:09:11.130 --> 01:09:21.300
There's 1 question that popped up our pricing are asked for the princess bride cards. Are they a regular deck of cards with just your Princess bride?

624
01:09:21.300 --> 01:09:29.520
Same or is it an actual game? This this 1 is an actual we go back to it.

625
01:09:29.520 --> 01:09:32.579
These are actual, just playing cards.

626
01:09:32.579 --> 01:09:47.220
And the typical suits that you have in a regular 52 card deck, a 52 card deck, plus 2 jokers.

627
01:09:47.220 --> 01:09:53.220
Uh, and each of the, the families shall we say.

628
01:09:53.220 --> 01:09:56.550
You can see for the clubs. There's a.

629
01:09:56.550 --> 01:10:01.050
Oh, I've just blanking on his name. My wife would never forgive me for that.

630
01:10:01.050 --> 01:10:06.539
I'm sorry, I can't tell somebody.

631
01:10:06.539 --> 01:10:12.029
Was taken, but I can't tell you right now. Not not go. Thank you.

632
01:10:12.029 --> 01:10:16.949
I even have a shirt that that has the whole hello my name is and you'll tell ya.

633
01:10:16.949 --> 01:10:21.779
It killed my guys, so yes, I just had to go through the whole session to get the name.

634
01:10:21.779 --> 01:10:30.090
Absolutely, and there was actually 3 different decks, but I just wanted to deal with 1.

635
01:10:30.090 --> 01:10:34.800
To bring it out, but yes, it's just a deck of cards.

636
01:10:34.800 --> 01:10:42.899
Like I said on board game, there is an actual Princess bride game called as you wish. And in fact, I think there's multiples. So.

637
01:10:47.515 --> 01:10:59.244
Well, that's about taking up our time, Rob because fascinating. We have a lot of chatter about very fun stuff, but I think we'll need to take a break right now.

638
01:10:59.515 --> 01:11:05.034
If you have a chance, you might look through the chat and see if there's a question you want to answer to somebody.

639
01:11:05.340 --> 01:11:10.859
Specifically, okay, so.

640
01:11:10.859 --> 01:11:14.729
Did you hand off to Julie now before the break.

641
01:11:15.864 --> 01:11:28.675
Yeah, why don't you go ahead and thank you very much Rob. It was very entertaining. It's 145 on the East Coast. So let's resume at 155 or whatever. 55 it is where we are, and we'll take a 10 minute break.

642
01:11:30.270 --> 01:11:33.600
Thanks again, rod much appreciate it. Thank you.

643
01:12:27.810 --> 01:12:32.939
Welcome back everybody. Next step is Julie more from Cal State Fresno.

644
01:12:32.939 --> 01:12:39.000
Go ahead Julie. Hi, there everybody.

645
01:12:39.000 --> 01:12:43.649
How's everybody doing? I hope everybody still awake.

646
01:12:43.649 --> 01:12:54.779
Oh, thank you so much to Jessica and Rob for doing a lot of the heavy lifting. We.

647
01:12:54.779 --> 01:13:06.510
That means that I can just kind of flip through some of my slides, because I'm repeating quite a bit. I'm covering model naturally occurring.

648
01:13:06.510 --> 01:13:10.079
Microscope flies and.

649
01:13:10.079 --> 01:13:21.060
And I'm mainly looking at naturally occurring objects in the beginning and models. I think that if you.

650
01:13:21.060 --> 01:13:27.329
If you get those things, everything else will be easy.

651
01:13:27.329 --> 01:13:33.869
And all of this is fun, right?

652
01:13:33.869 --> 01:13:39.989
And let's see if I can get my screen to the moon.

653
01:13:39.989 --> 01:13:47.970
Okay, we've already mentioned our objects best practices guide, be sure to check it out.

654
01:13:47.970 --> 01:13:57.510
And here's the definition for objects and you can see oh, also, I have to let, you know.

655
01:13:57.510 --> 01:14:02.760
When I was preparing for this topic, um.

656
01:14:02.760 --> 01:14:14.130
You know, I I've been at home, so I've been choosing materials that I have around home.

657
01:14:15.505 --> 01:14:29.274
Also, my, my son is a budding paleontologist, so I have kind of unusual stuff at home. So, just to just to let, you know, anyway.

658
01:14:30.329 --> 01:14:38.699
Let's see here I have petoskey stone. Oh, look see there it is. You can see it even.

659
01:14:38.699 --> 01:14:41.760
In person.

660
01:14:41.760 --> 01:14:44.850
And a smile is on.

661
01:14:44.850 --> 01:14:54.210
To the smile on tooth is a cast of a real fossil that was found that library at.

662
01:14:57.085 --> 01:15:07.795
And when we, when we're creating these records, we're going to. Yeah. The 2 big. I mean, look at that. I, that's a that's a big 2.

663
01:15:11.305 --> 01:15:20.545
we're going to be using the visual materials and the type code is our remember that our,

664
01:15:21.385 --> 01:15:30.774
because you'll be seeing that a lot in this presentation and you can see from the BS and as.

665
01:15:31.170 --> 01:15:39.899
That things that we're talking about is here, the naturally occurring to models and.

666
01:15:39.899 --> 01:15:45.329
The microscope specimens, all kind of under this.

667
01:15:45.329 --> 01:15:49.350
Uh, this type code are.

668
01:15:51.569 --> 01:15:56.609
So, Here's some examples of reality are naturally occurring.

669
01:15:56.609 --> 01:15:59.819
Object things from my I have.

670
01:15:59.819 --> 01:16:11.550
Yes, and there is a, my pataski stone again there's oh, we have a spinal.

671
01:16:11.550 --> 01:16:16.979
Fine, as far as to parcel, it's a real dinosaurs.

672
01:16:16.979 --> 01:16:21.090
It's possible I didn't bring that with me.

673
01:16:21.090 --> 01:16:35.244
Um, it's ironic that all of these examples are from home, but then my Internet crashed. So now I came in to work to do this what to do this webinar.

674
01:16:37.555 --> 01:16:38.845
So, it's kind of ironic.

675
01:16:39.180 --> 01:16:49.170
Anyway, and this, my herring fossils and the, so these are are real things. These are real things we're talking about.

676
01:16:49.170 --> 01:16:53.310
No, unfortunately with hard yea.

677
01:16:53.310 --> 01:16:59.010
It kind of remains completely dead silence.

678
01:16:59.010 --> 01:17:03.659
When it comes to cataloguing real things.

679
01:17:03.659 --> 01:17:07.380
Least naturally occurring objects.

680
01:17:07.380 --> 01:17:14.369
And so that's where we have to kind of fill in the gaps, given our in.

681
01:17:14.369 --> 01:17:20.220
Use judgment in cataloguing these kinds of materials.

682
01:17:20.220 --> 01:17:28.439
And so we go on the type of visual material is.

683
01:17:28.439 --> 01:17:33.420
Always going to be a reality off with a real thing.

684
01:17:33.420 --> 01:17:37.050
Um, and that is a.

685
01:17:37.050 --> 01:17:41.609
Type type of visual material equals are.

686
01:17:41.609 --> 01:17:50.130
No, this is a lot of words here, but Jessica really already talked about this quite a bit.

687
01:17:50.130 --> 01:17:54.630
Um, so now a lot of times with the.

688
01:17:54.630 --> 01:18:00.750
Kinds of objects you may or may not have.

689
01:18:00.750 --> 01:18:05.550
A source of information really you might not have.

690
01:18:05.550 --> 01:18:14.520
It printed what the title is, so if there's no title the catalog or has to create 1.

691
01:18:14.520 --> 01:18:20.130
And wherever you get the title from the source of description, we have.

692
01:18:20.130 --> 01:18:29.489
That it goes and feel 5 8 a M, so you will often see and.

693
01:18:29.489 --> 01:18:34.829
These sorts of records title device by catalog.

694
01:18:38.604 --> 01:18:47.935
Yeah, as we know the 264 is a good example of precise data that is coming along with our movement.

695
01:18:51.295 --> 01:19:06.175
Toward well with and trying to to move forward into the data around also this whole business of parsing

696
01:19:06.175 --> 01:19:12.685
it seems like we're always parsing things up things that we used to kind of talk together.

697
01:19:13.015 --> 01:19:14.395
Now we're.

698
01:19:14.970 --> 01:19:19.529
We have elements in specific fields.

699
01:19:19.529 --> 01:19:26.069
And sub fields, and the publication statement, um, is.

700
01:19:26.069 --> 01:19:30.239
Uh, a good example of that.

701
01:19:30.239 --> 01:19:33.479
Now, um.

702
01:19:33.479 --> 01:19:43.920
Yea, have would have a say publisher, not identified date not identified.

703
01:19:43.920 --> 01:19:47.250
For a lot of these thing.

704
01:19:47.250 --> 01:19:51.090
Um, but.

705
01:19:51.090 --> 01:19:58.739
Really this whole idea of the whole notion as just particular pointed at.

706
01:19:58.739 --> 01:20:05.939
Is the publication is very plant centric it was really.

707
01:20:05.939 --> 01:20:12.300
The idea of publication is still very print centric.

708
01:20:12.300 --> 01:20:21.210
So, we're kind of having to still deal with a text base a set of.

709
01:20:21.210 --> 01:20:25.770
Rules or instructions.

710
01:20:25.770 --> 01:20:29.850
So, a lot of times.

711
01:20:29.850 --> 01:20:44.515
Publish publish doesn't really even make sense for us so we, with the object task force we look carefully at 0T.6.

712
01:20:45.869 --> 01:20:56.220
Point form, and if the concept of publications just does not make sense for the type of material being the scribe.

713
01:20:56.220 --> 01:21:06.359
Then just do not record or supplies those elements if it's not.

714
01:21:06.359 --> 01:21:09.659
Uh, readily available.

715
01:21:10.979 --> 01:21:14.550
So, for reality, um, um.

716
01:21:14.550 --> 01:21:20.189
You know, looking at my pataski stone or my spinous horse.

717
01:21:20.189 --> 01:21:32.670
Fossil for naturally occurring objects, this whole notion of publication. I mean, you know.

718
01:21:32.670 --> 01:21:36.630
Yeah, it really does does not make sense and so.

719
01:21:36.630 --> 01:21:42.720
Um, we are suggesting that note to 64 should be there.

720
01:21:42.720 --> 01:21:55.199
And in addition the date and publication status equals and for unknown, and we would have you for the date.

721
01:21:55.199 --> 01:21:59.340
And also my protask, you don't have.

722
01:21:59.340 --> 01:22:04.529
No language code, there's no linguistic content.

723
01:22:04.529 --> 01:22:07.920
So, see, X X.

724
01:22:07.920 --> 01:22:22.890
When when the naturally occurring object gets packaged and distributed, that puts it in a whole other realm because then you have.

725
01:22:22.890 --> 01:22:34.590
Stuff happening to it and and you can talk about the distributor or the manufacturer or.

726
01:22:34.590 --> 01:22:41.640
Any of those kinds of things? Well, the distributor mainly.

727
01:22:41.640 --> 01:22:51.420
And so, in this example, this is me to your eyes that we bought from a company called educational Internet innovations.

728
01:22:51.420 --> 01:22:54.899
And the public patient status is.

729
01:22:54.899 --> 01:22:59.279
Date 1 is 2011.

730
01:22:59.279 --> 01:23:03.600
Because we figured it was 2011 ish.

731
01:23:03.600 --> 01:23:07.020
Then it was distributed.

732
01:23:07.020 --> 01:23:11.489
And all of the information was in English.

733
01:23:11.489 --> 01:23:22.109
So, we have language code and educational innovations is based in Connecticut. So.

734
01:23:22.109 --> 01:23:26.010
Is our country to.

735
01:23:26.010 --> 01:23:33.720
You can see we have this controlled list. Jessica, talk about that a little bit.

736
01:23:33.720 --> 01:23:37.829
So you can say 1 specimen or.

737
01:23:37.829 --> 01:23:41.670
1 model, if you want to.

738
01:23:41.670 --> 01:23:46.260
Sometimes the prescribed was.

739
01:23:46.260 --> 01:23:53.550
It's not as specific as what we would like and so you can also say.

740
01:23:53.550 --> 01:23:57.270
What what you would prefer.

741
01:23:59.310 --> 01:24:03.750
And we have the best materials and dimensions.

742
01:24:03.750 --> 01:24:08.670
So, you can choose the base material.

743
01:24:08.670 --> 01:24:13.770
From the control list now.

744
01:24:13.770 --> 01:24:19.109
I don't know about you, but, um.

745
01:24:19.109 --> 01:24:22.800
I have this thing about measuring stuff.

746
01:24:22.800 --> 01:24:31.350
I love to managing stuff. I don't know. It's that abnormal. I don't know. I have.

747
01:24:31.350 --> 01:24:44.909
I have a paint measure in my purse. That's like the 1st thing that goes in my purse is a tape measure. And so, because I'm always measuring stuff. I don't know how people.

748
01:24:44.909 --> 01:24:52.439
Can do anything without being able to measure stuff. So, anyway, I always have a tape measure with me.

749
01:24:52.439 --> 01:24:58.319
And so that I can be thinking about the height width and the.

750
01:24:58.319 --> 01:25:02.489
Of whatever it is that I am looking at.

751
01:25:02.489 --> 01:25:07.859
So, and this is how we record it.

752
01:25:07.859 --> 01:25:12.000
With and that like that.

753
01:25:13.920 --> 01:25:17.220
No, for my pataski so.

754
01:25:17.220 --> 01:25:24.270
You can see me measuring you can also use the centimeters on the ruler.

755
01:25:24.270 --> 01:25:29.069
Um, so there's the hide the web and adapt.

756
01:25:29.069 --> 01:25:35.550
And, um.

757
01:25:35.550 --> 01:25:38.550
Yeah, I have no idea why that.

758
01:25:38.550 --> 01:25:43.920
Arrow is sitting in go away.

759
01:25:43.920 --> 01:25:49.890
So the 336 337 and 238.

760
01:25:49.890 --> 01:26:02.819
Are things that this is not new at this point for most objects it's going to be 6, 3 dimensional form.

761
01:26:02.819 --> 01:26:10.890
337 mediated and 38 carrier type will be objects.

762
01:26:10.890 --> 01:26:18.569
And that's the 3 that you're going to see, and almost all objects.

763
01:26:18.569 --> 01:26:22.680
Examples.

764
01:26:22.680 --> 01:26:26.310
And the 3 services is.

765
01:26:26.310 --> 01:26:29.850
Um, it means that.

766
01:26:29.850 --> 01:26:40.109
The content is expressed through a form of forms that are intended to be perceived visually in 3.

767
01:26:40.109 --> 01:26:44.699
That mentioned now my rock or.

768
01:26:44.699 --> 01:26:49.289
pataski stone, it's, it's meant to be.

769
01:26:49.289 --> 01:26:54.060
Perceived in 3 dimensions, I think.

770
01:26:54.060 --> 01:26:57.119
Um.

771
01:26:58.590 --> 01:27:01.649
And so these are the.

772
01:27:01.649 --> 01:27:06.180
The access is that I put for the pataski.

773
01:27:06.180 --> 01:27:12.300
And you can see the 3 dimensional form mediated and object.

774
01:27:12.300 --> 01:27:15.840
And the events and.

775
01:27:17.550 --> 01:27:23.310
And then here's a fuller record of the potassium.

776
01:27:23.310 --> 01:27:27.960
Just so you can kind of get an idea you've seen the.

777
01:27:27.960 --> 01:27:33.720
The are, let's see here, I'm supposed to be able to have a.

778
01:27:33.720 --> 01:27:37.560
Laser, Where's my laser thing? Oh, there it is.

779
01:27:37.560 --> 01:27:41.850
Okay, you can see that are here and are there.

780
01:27:41.850 --> 01:27:47.100
And we use their pataski.

781
01:27:47.100 --> 01:27:52.500
Now, I put brand and grey I guess a lot of people would just put a collar.

782
01:27:52.500 --> 01:27:56.789
And then there, there's the, uh, dimension.

783
01:27:59.789 --> 01:28:05.489
Um, 340 lines you can put.

784
01:28:05.489 --> 01:28:10.140
In San Jose, or T, the colors.

785
01:28:10.140 --> 01:28:14.010
388 the bonding period.

786
01:28:14.010 --> 01:28:19.380
We know that pataski stones came from the devoting periods.

787
01:28:26.069 --> 01:28:32.609
And, um.

788
01:28:32.609 --> 01:28:38.130
But she's the only other thing is titled device by catalog.

789
01:28:38.130 --> 01:28:44.460
I wasn't really crazy about the subject heading.

790
01:28:44.460 --> 01:28:50.520
That there's no for pataski so.

791
01:28:50.520 --> 01:29:01.619
Um, and I grew up in Indiana, we used to go to Lake Michigan for for our family vacations, and we always found these things and.

792
01:29:01.619 --> 01:29:10.109
Well, we, I would like to see petoskey somewhere in there, but I wasn't sure.

793
01:29:10.109 --> 01:29:15.899
How to how to put that? So, anyway, this, this is kind of more of a rant then.

794
01:29:15.899 --> 01:29:19.079
That Tom and I guess.

795
01:29:21.060 --> 01:29:28.140
So, other possibilities to think about them, are some of these new.

796
01:29:28.140 --> 01:29:33.390
3 X, X, you know, we have the 340.

797
01:29:33.390 --> 01:29:40.949
370 if we know if we knew it was discovered, and and then we could say.

798
01:29:40.949 --> 01:29:45.539
That it was, I don't know that for sure. So I didn't put that.

799
01:29:45.539 --> 01:29:54.420
And then the time period of creation, the 338, we know that.

800
01:29:54.420 --> 01:30:04.289
Came from the Bernie and period the 518 you could also put as a non 518.

801
01:30:04.289 --> 01:30:09.960
Them in 2015 and pataski, Michigan if he knew that.

802
01:30:09.960 --> 01:30:17.069
And then again with the reality.

803
01:30:17.069 --> 01:30:23.699
Packaged and distributed things. This is my my.

804
01:30:23.699 --> 01:30:27.569
Record again, you have.

805
01:30:27.569 --> 01:30:32.340
You know, this, this is more standard because you have.

806
01:30:32.340 --> 01:30:39.600
Sort of a guess at a date anyway, the type the size of the material types are.

807
01:30:39.600 --> 01:30:42.810
Um, and.

808
01:30:42.810 --> 01:30:51.840
If there's anything exciting about this record.

809
01:30:51.840 --> 01:30:56.520
Well, we put a title from container label.

810
01:30:56.520 --> 01:31:02.699
And this is actually a, um.

811
01:31:02.699 --> 01:31:10.229
A piece that came from my library so this is something that I cataloged in a.

812
01:31:10.229 --> 01:31:21.000
So, I wanted to actually go to.

813
01:31:21.000 --> 01:31:24.899
Um, my, um.

814
01:31:24.899 --> 01:31:31.199
Questions and answers to see just to make sure that you're staying away.

815
01:31:31.199 --> 01:31:41.369
And so so, let's give you guys a, an example of reality. So here's a Geode.

816
01:31:41.369 --> 01:31:45.180
And it's, you know, cut into.

817
01:31:45.180 --> 01:31:48.899
2.

818
01:31:53.039 --> 01:31:57.389
And here are some blanks.

819
01:31:57.389 --> 01:32:03.118
So, your job is to fill in the blank. So what was the type the.

820
01:32:03.118 --> 01:32:07.229
Uh, for.

821
01:32:07.229 --> 01:32:10.319
Anybody just just put it in a chat.

822
01:32:10.319 --> 01:32:20.908
The type would equal what? Yay, people are away and the, um.

823
01:32:20.908 --> 01:32:25.109
Type material. What is that?

824
01:32:25.109 --> 01:32:32.998
Yeah, more hours. Okay. And then the, the, the status.

825
01:32:32.998 --> 01:32:43.529
What once you put? Yes, and the, um.

826
01:32:43.529 --> 01:32:51.029
The, and you use for the day, thank you. What would you put for the 245.

827
01:32:51.029 --> 01:32:55.618
Hey.

828
01:32:55.618 --> 01:33:00.748
That's what I would put to and, um.

829
01:33:00.748 --> 01:33:08.609
The 338, so we have 3 dimensional form and mediated.

830
01:33:08.609 --> 01:33:17.368
And, yes, okay. People are awake. That's great. And what was the 5 of the.

831
01:33:17.368 --> 01:33:23.759
Yeah.

832
01:33:23.759 --> 01:33:26.878
Excellent title device by.

833
01:33:26.878 --> 01:33:40.738
Catalog here and then you can see, I have the answers here too. So if you want to go back and kind of look at it closer.

834
01:33:40.738 --> 01:33:46.168
Um, we can, we can do, and you can do that, um, later.

835
01:33:46.168 --> 01:33:52.588
Did you want to take a few questions that have come in through chat.

836
01:33:53.243 --> 01:34:06.444
Oh, sir. We have the time George. Well, he asked, but found objects for objects was found and data hospitalization, genus and species. Where would that be in a big record?

837
01:34:06.444 --> 01:34:10.134
And I know you talked about some of that I just wanted to give you the chance to add anything.

838
01:34:12.118 --> 01:34:15.389
Yeah, I think.

839
01:34:15.389 --> 01:34:26.274
I think that we talked about that a little bit um, some of these things, like putting the time period of creation.

840
01:34:26.274 --> 01:34:35.094
And the idea that that is kind of new to me, as are a lot of these 3 X X's. I mean, honestly, are.

841
01:34:35.429 --> 01:34:46.679
Are pretty new to me and things that used to just oh, you know, I would just lump them in a 500. no. You know, I mean, come on.

842
01:34:46.679 --> 01:34:55.139
Like, stick it in a 500 be done with it but but now we're trying to find spots for these.

843
01:34:55.139 --> 01:35:02.094
For these things and so, yeah, I think I, I talked a little bit about associated place in the 370.

844
01:35:02.094 --> 01:35:11.184
and, um, and also, if you want to do a 518 for the date and place that you found the thing.

845
01:35:12.474 --> 01:35:13.944
You can have that.

846
01:35:15.594 --> 01:35:30.533
Thanks Julie next question is from Ethan, who says, does anyone have examples of situations in which these kinds of objects are getting traditional library, cataloging, easier using and Mark is mostly seem like museum materials.

847
01:35:30.533 --> 01:35:34.703
Don't museums typically have their own specified metadatas structures.

848
01:35:35.873 --> 01:35:50.363
We actually have a large, a very large teacher resource center in my library. It's an academic library and so the teachers can come and.

849
01:35:50.698 --> 01:35:56.304
They borrow this stuff and take them to their classrooms.

850
01:35:56.304 --> 01:36:02.993
So if they have a class and they're studying dinosaurs,

851
01:36:03.564 --> 01:36:06.384
what a better thing to have them,

852
01:36:06.712 --> 01:36:10.463
then a smiled on tooth or I mean,

853
01:36:10.644 --> 01:36:15.503
a smile smile abandoned in a dinosaur but it's pretty historic.

854
01:36:15.503 --> 01:36:17.934
I think if they're studying Pre history.

855
01:36:21.088 --> 01:36:25.918
Uh, we, we do have quite a few skull and.

856
01:36:25.918 --> 01:36:33.179
Things like that, and in our collection so it depends on your library maybe.

857
01:36:33.179 --> 01:36:36.179
Maybe your library doesn't have a big.

858
01:36:36.179 --> 01:36:39.988
Teacher resource center, like, we do.

859
01:36:39.988 --> 01:36:47.698
Um, but but our, our library certainly has lots of these kinds of objects.

860
01:36:50.394 --> 01:36:50.963
Thank you,

861
01:36:51.743 --> 01:36:52.163
Kathy,

862
01:36:52.163 --> 01:36:53.934
let's ask her says,

863
01:36:54.024 --> 01:37:02.213
still perplexed about the fixed field for language and media right itself does not have any language text even if the packaging or guide does,

864
01:37:02.724 --> 01:37:03.743
why use,

865
01:37:03.804 --> 01:37:06.684
why not use language code and this is,

866
01:37:07.613 --> 01:37:09.264
it wouldn't be coded music.

867
01:37:09.264 --> 01:37:14.123
Has no language even if the cover title page etc do have text.

868
01:37:14.578 --> 01:37:26.698
Let's see here maybe I did that wrong. I, um, it, it, if it is a sound object like pataski.

869
01:37:26.698 --> 01:37:32.219
Did I do that to the tasking so anyway, the petoskey stone would have.

870
01:37:32.219 --> 01:37:35.519
Uh, it would be. That's correct.

871
01:37:38.484 --> 01:37:50.184
And 1 more question for Scott, a bit of chatter, which you may want to jump in on Brian asked if we have 2 of these, both called Geode what qualifier would you use for the 130.

872
01:37:51.538 --> 01:37:57.118
Eva.

873
01:37:57.118 --> 01:38:02.158
Well, that's the thing.

874
01:38:02.158 --> 01:38:05.998
You know, I would probably.

875
01:38:07.554 --> 01:38:11.304
I'm not sure I would have to think about that long and hard.

876
01:38:12.054 --> 01:38:24.533
I might use color or I might use, you know, like, if if we need a place where it was found or something, I would, I would really have to think about that.

877
01:38:24.533 --> 01:38:27.054
A little bit longer than what I have here.

878
01:38:27.389 --> 01:38:32.998
Well, thank you. I appreciate you. I don't know. Um.

879
01:38:34.738 --> 01:38:44.578
1 more question from me, how did the roles of when to create a new record apply to a naturally occurring objects? Good question.

880
01:38:47.033 --> 01:39:00.922
Let's see, how do the rules of when to create a new record, apply to naturally occurring objects. So, catalog task is stone and I have 1 that I need to catalog. Do I do a separate record? Because they're unique.

881
01:39:02.368 --> 01:39:11.729
This is a question that comes up. I actually asked this of Nancy be often.

882
01:39:11.729 --> 01:39:17.158
A long time ago, and we had quietly the.

883
01:39:18.264 --> 01:39:21.743
Sort of a practice discussion afterwards,

884
01:39:21.953 --> 01:39:27.413
because I used as my example in Alaska,

885
01:39:27.654 --> 01:39:31.703
a stuffed beaver that I had and I said,

886
01:39:31.703 --> 01:39:31.913
well,

887
01:39:31.913 --> 01:39:40.944
if I have a stuff beaver and my friend in in in Michigan has a fever and my friend in Florida has a fever,

888
01:39:41.363 --> 01:39:42.024
you know,

889
01:39:42.054 --> 01:39:42.654
I mean,

890
01:39:42.713 --> 01:39:48.654
so we've all got our stuff fevers here or petoskey stones.

891
01:39:48.743 --> 01:39:52.014
Do we really want to flood the.

892
01:39:52.349 --> 01:39:59.578
With with beavers or petoskey stones or what have you.

893
01:39:59.578 --> 01:40:02.878
And.

894
01:40:03.323 --> 01:40:17.993
Was something that Nancy be also had to really think about that too? I think that because they are unique items, they are different sizes. They might be a different.

895
01:40:18.988 --> 01:40:24.569
I would tend to probably.

896
01:40:24.569 --> 01:40:31.469
Create a new record, um, even though I know the folks, um.

897
01:40:31.469 --> 01:40:34.529
They don't want us to be creating duplicate.

898
01:40:34.529 --> 01:40:38.578
And there.

899
01:40:38.578 --> 01:40:42.988
They, they are unique though, so.

900
01:40:42.988 --> 01:40:47.849
There you have it, I would create an original.

901
01:40:47.849 --> 01:40:53.128
I know a lot of people would probably just copy catalog.

902
01:40:53.128 --> 01:40:57.238
You know, 1 that had already been done.

903
01:40:57.238 --> 01:41:04.889
I guess, I guess that that falls into the realm of catalogue judgment.

904
01:41:06.713 --> 01:41:07.073
Maybe,

905
01:41:07.073 --> 01:41:09.354
it's just the ethics of cataloging I don't know,

906
01:41:11.274 --> 01:41:16.163
from the questions we have a few more minutes I don't know if you want to present more,

907
01:41:16.163 --> 01:41:18.413
or if you're yeah,

908
01:41:18.413 --> 01:41:23.904
I've got a lot more what we have to wrap up in 5 or 6 minutes.

909
01:41:24.474 --> 01:41:35.243
Oh, no, the just so, you know, the closed captioning will will not go on after the app service. Sorry?

910
01:41:35.698 --> 01:41:41.998
So, um.

911
01:41:41.998 --> 01:41:45.208
So, let's go on to models.

912
01:41:45.208 --> 01:41:49.439
And here we have the smile and on and the dire walls.

913
01:41:49.439 --> 01:42:00.029
And now that I've kind of led the landscape that, you know, we've got the material type, which is to.

914
01:42:00.029 --> 01:42:07.378
For model, and it's my smile done all that. Yes, I have that thing at home.

915
01:42:07.378 --> 01:42:13.319
And here, you can see how we.

916
01:42:13.319 --> 01:42:17.009
Made the 264 field.

917
01:42:17.009 --> 01:42:20.698
And, um.

918
01:42:22.798 --> 01:42:29.998
And and here, we've added this 340 plastic poly Chrome the 380.

919
01:42:29.998 --> 01:42:34.769
And, um, yeah, I think that's.

920
01:42:34.769 --> 01:42:47.578
That's it. No, I have a couple of examples of models. I think that I'm going to go ahead and move forward though, just so that I can get through.

921
01:42:47.578 --> 01:42:51.509
Microscope slides we have.

922
01:42:51.509 --> 01:42:58.439
Uh, 25, biology microscope slides and.

923
01:42:58.439 --> 01:43:09.899
You can see those. This is a little bit different. I mean, the, the material type is microscope slide or the type of visual material.

924
01:43:09.899 --> 01:43:13.198
Uh, it was, he.

925
01:43:13.198 --> 01:43:20.219
So what's different about microscope slides?

926
01:43:20.219 --> 01:43:28.259
Really? It's in those 3 x axis so yes, there are 3 dimensional form.

927
01:43:28.259 --> 01:43:34.319
The 3 7 is microscopic.

928
01:43:34.319 --> 01:43:38.519
And that's really 3 is microscope slides.

929
01:43:38.519 --> 01:43:51.658
So, microscopes slides are a little bit different compared to everything else and yes, I do put those in a 5 and 5 just in case somebody's looking for.

930
01:43:51.658 --> 01:43:54.868
Those connective tissue.

931
01:43:57.929 --> 01:44:03.088
And is there anything exciting there now?

932
01:44:03.088 --> 01:44:10.529
Okay, now I don't want to leave without talking about chips.

933
01:44:10.529 --> 01:44:22.798
Now, the thing is, there is no definitive definition for tests and rba and she'll say not even really mentioned in rba but.

934
01:44:22.798 --> 01:44:27.899
Uh, don't panic and whatever you do you don't agonize about it.

935
01:44:27.899 --> 01:44:32.998
No, it's actually almost from the.

936
01:44:32.998 --> 01:44:42.088
The whole thing with the object guide to a halt, but then we realized that.

937
01:44:42.088 --> 01:44:48.238
Sometimes tips are composed of things that are not object.

938
01:44:48.238 --> 01:44:53.578
And so if we kind of fall back on the ACR, 2 definition.

939
01:44:53.578 --> 01:45:05.009
Um, but, you know, if, and so we ended up with the objects guide, just not addressing kids at all.

940
01:45:05.009 --> 01:45:14.548
But the people for this presentation, we're saying, we really would like to hear what you have to say about kids.

941
01:45:14.548 --> 01:45:21.118
And so this is coming, just from me, it's not a last cap fee.

942
01:45:21.118 --> 01:45:31.378
It hasn't been anointed. This is just what Julie would do about tips. So I would actually kind of use some more general term.

943
01:45:31.378 --> 01:45:35.009
More more than the common definition for.

944
01:45:35.009 --> 01:45:41.399
And you can see here, my son has the discovered dinosaurs to.

945
01:45:41.399 --> 01:45:50.189
And it includes books, and there's a fossil and a toy, or as he calls it an action figure.

946
01:45:50.189 --> 01:45:56.969
And the code for that is oh.

947
01:45:56.969 --> 01:46:05.189
It's always going to be oh, and the 33.

948
01:46:05.189 --> 01:46:08.819
Type the material type is the.

949
01:46:08.819 --> 01:46:14.969
And so here we have a.

950
01:46:14.969 --> 01:46:21.149
A record of sorts and, um, let's see here.

951
01:46:21.149 --> 01:46:25.349
And this one's task, this particular 1.

952
01:46:25.349 --> 01:46:32.219
And you can see that this is kind of more of a thing that is.

953
01:46:32.219 --> 01:46:39.899
It's more like a publishing thing. So, um, so we have a copy, right? They.

954
01:46:39.899 --> 01:46:44.338
And let me see oh, and so with a to.

955
01:46:44.338 --> 01:46:51.059
And you, you might have a page full of 3 XS to to.

956
01:46:51.059 --> 01:46:54.958
Talk about.

957
01:46:54.958 --> 01:46:59.519
The content and media and carriers.

958
01:46:59.519 --> 01:47:03.298
Depending on what you have.

959
01:47:03.298 --> 01:47:08.729
And then, of course, we have a task style, um.

960
01:47:11.394 --> 01:47:24.503
3 dimensional form that is a, to this is 1 of those feely bags where the kids can stick their hand in with a blindfold and they, there's just a guess what it is.

961
01:47:24.503 --> 01:47:26.394
If it's a marble or a.

962
01:47:26.729 --> 01:47:35.338
Piece of steel Waller firing. It's no and, um.

963
01:47:35.338 --> 01:47:43.168
And so anyway, the 336 will be tactile, 3 dimensional form and it's meant to be.

964
01:47:43.168 --> 01:47:46.918
Received touch.

965
01:47:46.918 --> 01:47:55.948
And so that's where you have the test all 3 dimensional form. That's what I wanted to get across with this example.

966
01:47:55.948 --> 01:47:59.878
And.

967
01:47:59.878 --> 01:48:13.798
We are so cataloging funny formats. Do we have a chance to be able to go for some more questions?

968
01:48:13.798 --> 01:48:24.899
Well, none have really shown up there and some chatter. I have the I have that 31 just so, you know.

969
01:48:24.899 --> 01:48:28.948
Oh, I have a model example.

970
01:48:28.948 --> 01:48:34.078
And, um, let's see, here.

971
01:48:34.078 --> 01:48:42.088
I don't know. Do you want me to go to the model a sample or not at this point?

972
01:48:42.088 --> 01:48:48.479
Might be best not to, since the captioning is going to turn off is included in your handout.

973
01:48:48.479 --> 01:48:54.599
It's included in the more questions than answers.

974
01:48:54.599 --> 01:49:03.569
And there's, there's a really cool surprise in there something that my son really was hoping that we would.

975
01:49:03.569 --> 01:49:07.378
We would get to see and.

976
01:49:07.378 --> 01:49:11.429
That is.

977
01:49:11.429 --> 01:49:14.878
I can.

978
01:49:14.878 --> 01:49:27.958
Yeah, pretty scary looking. So that is something that you can take the information that you've learned from this workshop and see if you can fill in the blanks.

979
01:49:27.958 --> 01:49:40.168
Julie, thank you so much. It's been very engaging and also want to thank Rob and Jessica that you did a great, great effort of covering all this material.

980
01:49:40.168 --> 01:49:48.658
I also thank all the attendees today much appreciate it. It's been a great session and hopefully we'll catch you all at 3 o'clock.

981
01:49:48.658 --> 01:49:50.368
Take care of everybody.