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So, is that our 1st, 90 presenter would be Christian? Ferdinand she's a music meta data librarian at University of Minnesota library. So, Christian, we could make you presenter.

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If needed all right, thank you. Hailey? Yes, I'm Christy bird.

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1 time from the University of Minnesota and I am a logger, but have gotten involved with the process of digital score acquisitions.

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And we'd just like to talk a little bit about that. And I know it's Friday afternoon of a really great information, dense conference week.

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So I'm figuring folks, maybe a little attention span challenged like me or a little punchy like me at this point. So, I'm just going to roll with that with a few little visual aids. No. Slides here.

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So developing a workflow for digital score acquisitions.

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Full disclosure, we are not as a point of really having our act together enough at the University of Minnesota to claim to have perfected this process. But we have learned some important things along the way that I thought would be potentially useful to share with others.

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So here are some highlights in this process we had, I had kind of 3, big realizations and the 1st, and most important 1, is that.

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Every party in this process is coming from a completely different perspective. And the challenge is to.

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Uh, bridge the knowledge gap between them.

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We have composers who are creative folks who almost certainly have.

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At least 1 other job in addition to writing music, they are teachers, they are performers and who knows what else.

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They aren't even necessarily in the United States, they may be running their own websites. They may be.

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Uh, working with some kind of intermediary vendor, um.

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But whatever they're doing, they are certainly not thinking about acquisitions or any of this from a library model.

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They're thinking about protecting their intellectual property and trying to make a little money and trying to get their stuff out there, which is completely legit.

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Kind of pros and cons of this situation. It's a lot easier to access scores from.

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Foreign countries, we have been ordering a lot of stuff from Brazil lately, which is great, because we can access it before. We had to find a vendor with printed scores and then have them shipped.

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And that could take a really long time. So, we're saving, you know, we have great access in that way, but complications arise in negotiations.

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You know, just some language things with contracts where.

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Language can be complicating complicated and legal language, even if you speak that as your native language, but a lack of knowledge also in us and for us foreign copyright expectations.

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It gets complicated very quickly.

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Um, from vendors or producers, we have.

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You know, a variety of experiences there, we have a good context to work with these things from E, books because a lot of them already have built in platforms that we're dealing with. And we have boilerplate language that we can just refer to and say, here's what we need.

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And there's no complication with.

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Performance in general with E books, so it's pretty it's much more straightforward and we have a much larger wealth of experience to draw from with that with scores.

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Not so much, so, and they tend to be smaller and probably also don't have a lot of experience with dealing with libraries and understanding our needs. Their main business model is.

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Selling many copies of things to schools and ensembles, and then dealing with performance rights. So, a lot of the understanding of language.

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And licensing and copyright and performance rights, all get kind of blurred together.

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Which can be frustrating and problematic.

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And it can be kind of hard to really talk apples to apples. So understanding that their licensing language centers, if they even have it centers around performance, right?

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And understandably minimizing loss of revenue from illegal copying or illegal use.

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That's not really part of what we're trying to negotiate for.

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1, big thing we've come across is issues with.

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File names, they don't want us to.

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Change file names, but haven't always thought about file names in terms of what could be.

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The most useful thing for, you know.

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Places that will have lots of files so we can have names that are quite complicated and not particularly identifying. We can have file names or get file names.

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That have our own peoples names.

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In the file name, because they don't want it to be duplicated. This is great from a perspective of.

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Not having your merchandise ripped off, but for us not so good. And then file names.

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But just frankly that useful again.

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I refer to.

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And sometimes they come with no title with no title page and, you know.

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We need those things to keep our information straight so.

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Acquisition staff may not have any knowledge of music or licensing.

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He resources staff have great experience with licensing, but we sometimes forget to bring them into the conversation because how we think of these materials.

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Selectors think about here about these resources from students, faculty, other composers, colleagues and other institutions.

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And or in other countries.

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Or their local composers and alumni composers and catalog. Here's why I get involved. I have an understanding and a knowledge of.

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All of the parts of this process. So I feel like I can be useful to this conversation, but also, I can't get my cataloging work done until the other issues are resolved.

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So realization number 2 to get what we want, we have to figure out what we actually need.

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So, we have a we need a streamlined consistent process, which means not catering to the individual needs of requests from patrons. We have to start with our end goal and work backwards. And then all of the other language choices and efforts.

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Works for that so a checklist that we have is.

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Can we printed? Can we re, printed if it's lost or damaged? Can we change the file names? And can we do the things the library needs to do? Like.

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Lend to authorized users and.

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Can we lend them out through so,

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to that effect,

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we started using boilerplate statement nothing in this agreement shall be interpreted to diminish the rights and privileges of the licensee,

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or it's authorized users with respect to any of the licensed content,

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including exceptions,

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or limitations to the exclusive right of copyright owners in us copyright act.

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That's pretty vague, but it does the trick covers our bases and most people just accept it.

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Realization 3, some parts of our process.

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Don't work all that well, we still have unresolved issues, but we have to work through them anyway so we don't know all the answers, but we're figuring it out.

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And, you know, we don't know where we're going to bind the at what point we will bind to the scores. But we have decided that that's what we want to do. And that our choices might be different. If we had any real way of hosting digital time.

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Content as digital content, rather than having to print it out.

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So, having these conversations has helped enormously in improving the processing efficiency and just also.

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The overall experience, thank you very much.

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I think you Christie.

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We will open the floor for questions also. We will try to make sure to.

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Both and ask any questions at the end of all the topics. So if there's any questions, you can go ahead and plug them in or comment. But Christine presentation.

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Okay, we have a question. Where are you including that.

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Per plate language in the catalog record.

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On or with the score. Okay. So we're actually doing that in the licensing agreement.

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And if the vendor or composer is small enough, that they don't actually use a licensing agreement. If they don't have that we ask that they put it on the invoice. So that we have a record of it.

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So, that's what we're doing now, if we move to a situation where we are able to actually digitally.

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Host digital content, then we would.

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Probably have it more closely associated with.

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With the item. Okay. And then we have other questions what decisions have been made regarding date of publication.

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None that is still yet to be resolved. Sometimes they are provided on the item. And otherwise, I mean, that's more of a cataloging decision, which is a whole other ball of wax.

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And, yes, at this point, we are printing everything that's we don't really have other than to make a digital file that we can then.

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Even though it's to our own users, we don't.

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Have any facility for that, so that it's an awkward workaround either way, but that's where we are with that right now.

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Okay, next question are you providing access to digital files or only printouts or? That's what I just said we're printing now. Okay. Sorry.

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Could you post something such as a work in progress that guide for folks to follow your progress? Absolutely. I would be happy to do that.

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Okay, and we could post it on the conference website. That's fantastic. Yeah. Yeah.

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I don't see oh, there is 1 more question.

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Oh, this is just a general conference question, so we could answer that chat.

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All right then so I think that's it. Thank you Christine. So back to our index presenter.

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Where we green, she's a catalog librarian for E, resources and materials management at Yale University library.

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And marina's taken away.

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Hello? Yes, my name's where we agreeing. I'm responsible for original and complex copy cataloging of E, resources, including databases dataset.

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E, books, streaming, video and web archives. I'm going to seek to today about our ongoing locally hosted streaming video project.

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Our video collection from larger distributors are discoverable via the integrated library system, or and it's streaming video collections, lip guide, which you see in the screenshot here.

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Most of these video collections are accompanied by vendor Mark records, which are updated using mark, edit and batch loaded into the catalog. This process is accounted for approximately 12500, deadly graphic records so far this year.

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But single loads can sometimes number over 50000 titles,

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individual,

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streaming video course reserves are hosted by Panopto and made accessible to course,

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registrants via a media library in canvas,

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the campus learning management system.

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And you can see that in the top screen of the screenshot.

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These videos will also be available to the greater yell community through the,

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if licensing permits and when these slides were due a week ago,

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were still,

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which is electronic resources,

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cereals management team,

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which I'm on.

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We're still researching 3rd party platforms to host our individual streaming videos.

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Since then we settled on hosting videos on Aviary with supports yelled authentication technology and delete police videos when they are no longer available.

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And we'll be using Preservica to back up our video files and associated meta data.

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And here, we have collection development while video collections can be handled in a systematic way.

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We needed a solution for acquiring cataloging and providing access to individual streaming videos by lesser known filmmakers.

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The film study center and library collection, development department, select titles and make acquisition requests via Drupal form.

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And this is the screenshot shows a mock up of the form for the title memory of home.

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The acquisitions team, then receives the acquisitions requests, orders and pays for the individual streaming videos from smaller distributors or directly from filmmakers.

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Sometimes have to be tracked down on site, secures licensing agreements, receives video files and status the video, and accompanying read me files to storage, which is a central storage service.

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And here, this screenshot shows you, the streaming media file on storage. It yeah, each folder represents a distributor or filmmaker, and here, the filmmaker Kiki, you.

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The sub folder has the 2 films that we have of hers and when you click on memory of homes, you find the actual streaming video, and a read me file, which is also represented at the top. Right?

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This is the 1st of 2 screenshots depicting an original record.

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I created an oh,

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now sorry now to my portion of the work,

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I catalog videos and using PCCC provider,

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neutral guidelines with the help of ollect,

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best practices for cataloging,

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streaming media.

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For that I revised existing streaming video records to provider neutral if necessary.

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If there's a record for a physical format, but not the streaming 1.

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I use the macro and where you on the toolbar, you go to tools macros, manage, generate a record and then run.

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The macro retains the titles series. 6, X, X and 7 x X. Field's.

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Convert fixed and 3 XX.

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And adds 5, 8, 8 and 7 7.

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Fields for the E version if necessary I create an original provider neutral record from scratch.

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Um, I do not use the local storage at Yale link in the 856 field in, since using institutions specific runs counter to provide our neutral guideline.

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I prefer linking to a commercial resource such as Vimeo. If that's possible. If not. I use an 856 for 2 for a related resource for a publicly accessible trailer.

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And then sometimes I have to consult language specialists for assistance when parallel titles are needed. And this is the 1st or 2 screenshots depicting an original record. I created an for a streaming video.

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This image is of the closing credits of memory of home. And I obviously need to help with the Chinese parallel title, which 1 of my colleagues kindly helped me with.

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And then I entered it and the 246 and 880 fields to display the non Roman scripts. You can tell that is working by this bracket on the side of the 246.

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I then import the record into our local catalog, suppress it for now and update the record.

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With local updates, such as the 583 action note field saying that the file is transformed digitally and storage it.

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Yeah, I had subtitle and closed caption information and it's applicable a 655 genre form term for films for the hearing impaired.

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Change the URL to the storage site until a teacher link for Aviary is known and if we own a physical format of the title,

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I add a 7,

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6 field to its record,

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linking it to the record for the streaming version.

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After library, it stages the video files to Aviary. I will update the bid record in our local catalog.

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I changed the 583 action note field to record that the file has been transferred to optimal storage and Aviary update the, and the 856 field to the new Aviary link test that the link and video file both work.

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unsuppressed the record and notify the selector.

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And then I keep a record of all of my cataloging work in Excel. You see part of that on the top of the screenshot.

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And for this project, I added a trailer project management board to track the progress of my work, which is the bottom screenshot.

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Each card represents the title, his memory of home, and the cards are moved to the next list to the right when each task is completed.

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I also updated an E, order tracking log and SharePoint which tracks work between departments and teams.

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that they knew where I am on the process,

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sorry about that,

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if you can hear my cat and then for documentation,

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I compile the 3 page checklist for cataloging streaming videos and shared it with my team via box note,

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to be used for this and future projects and thank you for your time and feel free to ask me any questions or contact me later.

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If you need to.

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There are a few questions are ready.

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Brian, just for, you know, these sites will be made available on the conference website. Keep mentioning about some of the names that.

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That you were showing in your slide, so you will be able to see them there.

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But Janice asked, why is it so important to each provider neutral records? Well, it saves time.

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It is preferring that now and it saves time because now, 1 record can be used for every streaming version of the of the title in all institutions can use it.

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And then there are very few new things that you have to add in for your version. In our case, for example, if, if they're subtitles or closed captions, but it can be reuse multiple times.

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So it's safe times. And it makes sense.

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Time and it makes things much more uniform. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions from attendee.

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Please type them in.

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Not okay if you do batch editing, you also have fewer a comic you also have.

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Or fewer links to sort of people don't add institution.

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Right. Thanks that call.

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I think that's the.

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Thank you for me now, is there any more questions pop up later on? We could address those at the end of the night. You talk.

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Hey, our next presenter is Jamie.

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She's a manager librarian at University of Toronto.

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Hello can you see my side? Yep we can see it. Okay. So say, I want to be talking about metadata on digital sheet platform.

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Given the current decrease in access to our physical collections. The summer of my library began exploring the options out there for digital sheet music platforms. What? We already had the Alexander street classical music library.

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We were looking for more and better scores, more like the print scores. That we collect librarian for deck, the few options that we're able to try out each of them for their content as another data support.

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Because our music library, I wanted to see what the metadata with these platforms, what was included, how it worked with the search function and how accessible it was for libraries page.

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There we go, so there's quite a digital forms out there. Some of the ones that we looked at were kennely the classical library and ArmA. We eventually decided to purchase and code it and ArmA.

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So, I'm going to be focusing on those today because those are the ones that I had a chance to really try out and investigate.

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And quota offer sheet is from about 100 different music publishers to.

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And our which is the are music anthology.

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Offers music scores and articles published by our additions through a web browser platform.

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So, what does another data include for these things? It was pretty clear that both platforms would include things like title, composer, publisher. Very basic that it is that we need to know. So, it's mostly looking for a few more details here.

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If they include standard numbers, like I or and did they include publishers or plate numbers, publisher numbers or plate numbers, or a publication year? Just some extra information that will help us keep track of what these things are and help our users.

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Know what they're working with.

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Encoded does not include any sort of standard numbers, publisher or plate numbers or publication years I tested this out to see maybe it's just in in the back end but even if you find.

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A copy of 1 of the sport and encoder and a different availability to the publisher. They often offer.

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Like, PDF downloads now as well.

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You can't find any of these numbers in encoder.

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Error additions does not use publisher of white numbers, and their online platform only supports material from their own company. But their print scores do have.

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But that is not included in the available search options on the site, nor does the number up here, the digital edition of the works.

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For how searchable the data I was really looking to see if there was a.

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Underlying authority file on these platforms to test this. I search for a few works in different ways to see if it would come up with the same results.

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So 1st, I searched Chesapeake and Beethoven and 13 and Beethoven. The nickname office number of this piano Sonata.

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With a good authority file these 2 searches should have pulled up the same results.

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Unfortunately, and quota turned up 9 hits for the 1st search and 12 for the 2nd, with the only overlap being the additions that included both 13 and capacity in the title.

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Collection, so it was not because you can I help.

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Here either there was only 1 edition of this work with both 13 and in the title.

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I tested a few other titles that cannot be found in arm at all, but in encode as the results were about the same.

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It only only the words that appeared in the title would pop up.

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However, I also decided to look at how they deal with languages.

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So, I searched for both boss, Matthew passion in English and the buck.

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But House passion in German.

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And only, the English search turned up for a result. But an encoder both searches came up with the same side title, which had an English title and some of which had a German title to me. This suggests that.

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Encoder is better, including translation title, search results even if they're not given in the title that users can see.

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My final question was about integrating metadata for these resources into a library catalog.

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Libraries have to come a custom to searching 1 interface for most BlackBerry materials.

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Both encoder and our platforms that have to be searched separately the services we're not designed with libraries in mind necessarily. So, at this time, neither offers Mark records that can be loaded into the catalog. Like many of our electronic resource providers do.

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A record for our as a database is available to the intro to knowledge base. So they're starting to look at libraries and make their information a little bit more accessible. But at this point, it doesn't provide title level records for their.

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More, hopefully, I have spoken with the rep from encoder and they are exploring making records available. So maybe some data.

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The line that might be a possibility.

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So, overall, I'm kind of disappointed with these platforms and the minimal metadata that they offer for their content, especially for library.

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The stuff that they've got is fantastic, but it's harder to get out your library.

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I do see this as an opportunity for libraries, trialing and purchasing these products to speak up and ask for better meta data.

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We are the experts and how our users want to discover access and use these materials. So voices could help to improve the process. For example.

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Great conversations actually with about the platform and the information that they could include to make these products better for libraries.

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And I think if we could all start having these conversations, you haven't really positive impact on the metadata or services that's available.

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So, I'd love to hear more about your experience is looking at some of these. I know a lot of libraries are considering things like this in these unprecedented times. And I think we can all work together to help make it better.

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So, you can contact me here and I'd love to hear for you. Thanks so much.

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Thank you Kayla. Are there any question.

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Here's a comments.

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I mean, bit about our additions libraries and the main clients for their printed sources.

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But it seems like they're mostly focusing on.

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Music schools and libraries run most of their.

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Materials, which seems a little bit. I don't know. Not great to me.

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Not seeing any other comments or questions, but if you do think of anything we'll have at the end of the talks to those questions.

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And he also has another comment a music librarians group have also met with and suggested meta data improvement.

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Okay, thanks so much.

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Alright, perfect, thank you. So, our next presenter is Nicole Lewis she's the lead catalogue from the University of Utah.

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All right, thank you. So, Nicole. Great Thank you. And good afternoon. Everyone, I am grateful for the opportunity to speak to you about online exhibits, given the current conditions in which we live.

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It seems like many things are moving online and I think exhibits are 1 of those things that is more likely to do. So, especially as we gain more online skills and perspectives from this pandemic.

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Due to closed or restricted collections. There may not be a huge rush for institutions to create many of these very soon. But it may be only a matter of time before more and more libraries are doing.

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So so I'd like to talk just briefly about cataloging these as well as discussed the need for a best practices document.

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This is the Marriott libraries, digital or online exhibits web page you can see only 6 here in the screenshot but we have 15 right now I have included the link to this page in the upper right hand of the slide.

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If anyone is interested in seeing the others, our digital library and special collections, librarians started creating these about 2 years ago.

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So, they've been working on several per year they're powered by Omega s and the librarians have really done a fantastic job, creating these and highlighting different aspects of both our digital library and special collections items.

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2 of the exhibits have been done, collaboratively, either with other faculty at our institution, or with others at neighboring institutions. They approached me earlier this year asking that I catalog these.

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So that they'd be more discoverable from a basic search on the library's web page as well as more discoverable through world.

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When they 1st asked me to catalog them, I thought that it'd be fairly easy to do. So, but when I started digging into rules and guidelines, it didn't seem as straightforward as I'd hoped.

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The website aspects of it wouldn't be a problem, but I was uncertain how to capture the artistic side of these exhibits.

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Usually, when I catalog a new format, I like to look for existing examples to help me interpret different rules. So I logged into connection and tried to perform a search for records.

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Of online exhibits in the end I searched for the phrase online exhibit.

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In the fields that search yielded a variety of results.

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As they looked through records, I found them catalog in a number of different ways.

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I've listed out on this slide 6, general categories of the types of records, which I found.

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Many were done as an E book with a single date.

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Though I did see 1 that was cataloged as an E book with an open ended date. Several more were catalogued with the visual characteristics as the focus.

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As 2, D, non projected graphic, visual materials, either as an online picture see number 3 or as an art reproduction integrating resource example number 4.

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More of the recent ones catalogued by a particular institution were continuing resource websites. So there were others cataloged as online mixed material collections.

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So, rather than helping my go to of looking, at example, records only made me more confused.

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Since these are ultimately websites my solution for now was to follow the cataloging guidelines for integrating resources, using the continuing resources work forms.

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I coded for integrating resource and updating website and added an old 6 and 7 for the electronic nature.

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But in the content of the record, I tried to account for the art aspect of these online exhibits.

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That included adding a 306 for still image following the rule for exhibitions.

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I don't know if I've accurately applied everything since since this is a new territory for me,

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I continue to learn and update my own documentation as well as our existing records because we only have 15 of these records so far.

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It's relatively easy to go back and update them when I find I've made a mistake.

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This might be kind of small to read, but here's 1 of our records. You can partially see how I've tried to marry the electronic to the artistic aspects of this online exhibit.

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could any of the non projected graphic codings potentially apply to these,

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the more I research and try to improve these records the more I feel there's a need for best practices document.

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I haven't found 1 yet, so if any of, you know, of 1, please let me know, but if not, I can think of no better place for this to originate than from olack. This could even be in conjunction with the Arliss cataloging sections.

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Such a document could not only save research time for others like myself, but it could effectively guide catalog years in the best way to represent both the online aspect and the artistic aspect of these online exhibits.

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Which would in turn, help, create consistency in World cat, going forward and bring order to the current mayhem.

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Thank you very much. Um, I've included my email address here in case. Anyone wants to reach out to me after this point.

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Thank you Nicole, so we do have a question on in your experience. Do the tend to be revised or static?

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In in discussing that very fact with our digital librarians, or the creators of these website of these exhibits stays.

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They said that it's not.

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A 100% likely that they will be updated, but they may be updated. So, for now, I've.

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Sort of kept them as ongoing or, you know, potentially updating still. So so ours could be revised, but most might be static.

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Hey, thank you.

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Any other questions or comments for Nicole.

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Not seeing any Thank you again, Nicole, so we'll move back to our index.

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My talk center, Adrian Williams, she is the I'm so sorry no.

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Keeping a person's of that Amanda Mac catalog, or they film and television archive.

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Take it away, Amanda if you click on your microphone.

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Then I can, thank you. Yep. Okay. Sorry about that.

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Hi, everybody, I'm really excited to be talking to you about challenges cataloguing, local television news material.

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Um, it's a very valuable resource and an important part of the historical record, which is something. I hadn't really thought about this collection.

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And the utility film and television sports tend to have the sense that it's a collection.

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So the collection was donated by local Los Angeles area, television stations, 90.

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Including the copyright materials, which is really important, because it's so much easier to make them accessible that way.

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It's still 5000 devolves and we put it on 16. no need its own.

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Each role is related to 1 news story and the footage stand the late 1960 through the early 1980.

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Materials were already cataloged at the item level, but most records have minimal data and last a summary subject heading.

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Which was the collection largely inaccessible to the surgery?

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In 2016, we were awarded a grant from the John Randall teams and Dora whose foundation that enabled us to digitize catalog and make really available online.

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100 on a range of subjects.

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In 2008, with the 2nd grant foundation, we were able to complete a 2nd digitization project involving 80 plus.

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For this project be focused on stories between Los Angeles Mayor Tom Bradley's.

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Bradley was chosen because he was an important political figure in Los Angeles.

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And also for historical significance, and breaking down racial barriers in the city.

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He was the 1st, black man elected, and this will be Council.

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On the 1st, black mayor of Los Angeles as well as the only need to share of 5 terms.

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So, Bradley went live and that's going to.

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And the images you see at the bottom are all still quotes on various clips from the website.

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The process to get these materials online with those long and involve several archive departments.

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The 1st thing the 1st phase was film crap in which the holes are talking about the transfer.

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Many of the roles have sections that were held together with massive.

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Which was a pretty nasty residue when it was removed and it was a painstaking task for our film technician.

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To remove it and properly in the film.

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Once it was cool to standardize digital lab and laptop did some clean up on the sound.

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And then next the hard drive with the digital files scan, so I could do them and enhance existing catalog records.

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Once I was done with the records, it went for web masters and the catalog records.

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Keep the slate to the videos and text content for the web and the final step is uploading all the videos. And the screenshot is actually from our web portal.

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So I'm sure right now you might be thinking, well, that doesn't seem to that.

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Well, don't worry, it's about to get a lot not here. The phone collection was obsession with minimal data about well.

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We had a date, it was shot or broadcast a news identifier assigned by 2 letter prefix and the number.

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Such as foreign, 176 and the word or phrase handwritten on the phone leader.

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For example, many of these just have Bradley written on them.

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In most cases turned out to be Tom Bradley, but that wasn't always like, oh, unless it's through.

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Some clips had no Bradley present or mentioned in shape or form I think it probably cut out of the footage.

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And 1 actually has Omar Bradley, who was an important feature doing well, what she was that was 1 of the.

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Happy accident.

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These clips were also what we call cut out so it was everything they had shot for a particular news story.

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That was left over after he had cut and assembled with story that has to broadcast.

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So, we didn't have the actual finish story, which often made it much harder to figure out.

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Exactly, what the problem is about I always thought excited when the reporter flubbed their teeth because that you provided me with a lot more information when I would have had otherwise.

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To further complicate matters the segments that need up the story. Well, we're not in any kind of cookie supporter.

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Meaning what was it the beginning of the role was not necessarily what was shot.

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1st, a colleague describes it as picking up all the Q, she's off the editing new floor.

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And keeping them together, and that's a pretty accurate description. Folks from what I've seen.

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On top of this, the nature of local museums, it's a more difficult process for non local catalogs, identify event people in places.

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I'm not an L native and the only I know looks very different from the videos.

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So, how do these.

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Human resources really helped me overcome these challenges. The 1st, with technology.

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Just having digital files need to catalog the process so much easier than it would have been 30 minutes ago on with the film.

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With a click, I can send the video again where someone needs to be wound and set it up for you to play it again.

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I also easily back up the digital video if I need to see something or there's something again or cause it.

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And screenshots, but lifesaver, I could send them to colleagues to help with identification.

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Or has a picture up on 1 monitor while I can finish it on the other.

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And use different databases, but also incredibly helpful.

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Since I always had a date, I can often find newspaper coverage to help fill in the blank. Particularly was already people I can identify.

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Or, even that was just help spelling their name.

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Being able to keyword search the only time saving a ton of time. If I had to look through microphone taking so much longer.

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And the sense that we 1st was collaborating with colleagues who are Ellie natives, and lived through that time, period.

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Make generously volunteered to look at screenshots and videos, and we're able to identify many local political figures and places that no longer exist.

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Our television, as soon as you have contact seems very familiar with history.

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Was able to identify some of the reporters we never identify themselves on the phone.

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Local lead is not that is challenges, but what is an important part of the historical background is.

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I really hope we have the opportunity to digitize and catalyze more discussion in the future.

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And I will put that link to the web portal and the chat and if anybody wants to check it out.

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Thank you thank you so much Amanda.

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Um, are there any questions minutes they have questions or comments?

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And just mentioned, this sounds like a very cool project.

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Yeah, once it was over, it was kind of a lot of fun.

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Are the actual new stories held anywhere?

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We have no idea. Actually, they weren't available to us. I don't know if it's possible to we don't have them.

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Or, or if they've just been.

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Last time at all.

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Yes, definitely a bad thing.

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Any other questions or comments.

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Right. It's not on to our next presenter. Thank you again, Amanda.

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All right, so our next presenter is Adrian.

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They are the catalog emitted data library at University of Kentucky library.

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Adrian taken away. Hi, everyone, I'm happy to bring today's lightning talk. So close with my presentation.

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Today, I'll be discussing a sort of case study, the cataloging of a collection of documentaries available and training videos that occurred over the summer semester. I wanted to present on this particular collection for a few reasons.

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The 1st, is that since this is a collection of fairly local topics, the subject analysis proved fairly unique and engaging the 2nd, is that we already had many of these documentaries in physical formats that during this pandemic just aren't as available as they were before.

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And so the recent availability of them and streaming video was particularly timely for our students and other users.

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The 3rd is that, because I'm new to Kentucky, I started this position in January of this year. I'm still learning a lot about the state that I'm living in, and the people in communities that are here.

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And so the process of cataloging,

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this particular collection allowed me to learn more about Appalachia and the people,

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I would hope that making this collection of documentaries final,

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and our catalog will allow some of our students and other users to learn more about Kentucky and the wider Appalachian region as well.

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Next.

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Okay, in June of 2020 this year the University of Kentucky libraries acquired access to a collection of documentaries and independent film created through the Appalachia don't workshop or Apple shop.

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These films are now available in streaming video format, through our film button and license. I will shop as a community based film workshop prompted and 1969 and Weisberg, Kentucky.

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Mission was to provide local Kentucky and youth with access to so making equipment and training this workshop is still an operation today and these documentaries created through the workshop capture a lot of subjects from local

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activism and social justice to the life of minors.

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And my family's the effect of industrial of them on the economic, environmental and social lives of Appalachian, blue graph and other local music.

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And so on.

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You can library already had many of the older Apple shop documentaries and video cassette or video this format. And so when I came across a streaming video, that didn't already have a master record in.

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I would derive a new master record from 1 of the folder formats. And enhance the record from there I use a last best practices for cataloging 3 media as well as the provider neutral guidelines.

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These older format had been cataloged in a year or 2 of course. So, I converted the derived directory into changing to 6 0T to 6.

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4, when there was a delimiter agent to 45 leftover from a year or 2, I would take it out and change the 3, 3 X fields to the streaming video format. Many of these didn't have 5.

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0, 8, and 511 feel find sterile field as for listing the creator and contribute to the film.

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So, the sales director producers, neither competitor editors, and so on the 511 is for recording the cast and other on screen participants.

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I would get this information, like all the other family, a graphic information from the title screens and credit.

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Some of the graphic records about 60% also needed enhancement and subject heading American genesis 1 of the earlier earliest Apple shop documentaries as an example here and a good amount of these

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records that needed enhancement.

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There were 1, 2, 3 subject heading.

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That were of the absolute broader subjects,

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so think a documentary what,

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the subject heading documentary film,

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or a film centered on a particular valid collector and dulcimer player having a subject heading off musician.

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So, I expanded in specified subject, heading, appropriate for American genesis is record the video cassette record, had the subject heading youth, so murder the Appalachian region.

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So I expanded and specified object.

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So,

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I on the on the streaming video record,

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I changed that to really deliver to be watching region because the film factored specifically on teenagers and young adults,

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enroll areas and Appalachia.

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I also added Appalachian region, economic aspects, and social aspects, call, minor Atlassian region and children of coal miner Appalachian region.

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Because again, these were specifically the children of coal miners who were beginning to make our way in the world and the struggles that they were having.

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So, what was the impact of this project? The most important results is that these documentaries are now more widely available to our students and other users. Like I said earlier, we already had many of these in videocassette, or D. V d's.

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But in the time that we're and now where fiscal materials just aren't as immediately available as they were before and students aren't on campus as they were before streaming video is a great option for our library either to have the

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documentaries capture.

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So much of the diversity about the Appalachian region music, as people as politics, and why I was just able to catalog.

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Thank you.

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Thank you Adrian we do have a comment. Well, we have a question for.

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Did you add the subject heading to the local and or master records for the copies?

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I did that, but I think that's a great idea since they are the same.

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They are the same documentary. I could definitely.

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See going back and adding them to those records.

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Okay, comments from AB, glad you're here. Apple shop is still active. I haven't heard about them in a while.

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Oh, yeah, and then we have.

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For now useful documentation for cataloging, streaming media, Alexa, best practices for catalog and the PC provided and truly.

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Record guidelines regarding Apple shrub their latest video, their latest documentary is actually available for free on their website. I'm blanking on the name, but of the documentary.

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Itself, but if you go to.

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Couple shots or.

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For work I believe that yes.

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Portraits and I think it's still available, I think, out to.

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The end of this month maybe, but yeah, thank you.

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And then Scott added added revised subject heading would have been quicker to skip this step will add is.

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Which was great and we need the links that were provided by. Now they have parentheses, this is why it's probably single page. Not found.

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But if you remove those, parentheses, you should be able to get to the, to the, and all the chat will be posted as well for these sessions. So you could get that from there.

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Any other comments or questions for Adrian.

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All right, thank you so much Adrian you appreciate it.

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So the last talk that we have is actually a recording, so, give me 3rd for Brian to make new presenter.

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Hello.

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Thanks, Brian. I'm going to load this recording.

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Right.

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So unfortunately the presenters, we're not able to join us because they are from Europe, but it's randalltown bearish from the German National library and boom from the burning central and regional library.

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And they're going to talk about a great group that's being created over there and hopefully to form a partnership with olack and future. So.

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Let me go ahead and see this.

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Eva.

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I thought that was great. Unfortunately, I see that. Some folks were having audio issues, but.

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We will posted MP 4 to the.

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Conference website, so you'll be able to hear it there. So sorry about that. Some folks are going to hear it.

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Also, if you have any questions or comments about the lightning talk.

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Once you get to hear it through the conference website, you can go ahead and post a comment there or.

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Sent to the 22000 old Gmail.

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Email address, we have any questions for Anna and not talk and I could pass that along to them.

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So, we're at 4, 0, 3, I think we could give a few minutes for any questions or comments for any of our lightning talk speakers before we move on to a break.

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When I say, Stacy said that was great. Hopefully will be able to get a light talk from them. The next.

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Conference that would be great if they could come over to the States.

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So, Scott said an observation for Nicole on exhibitions.

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Fast exhibition catalogues may be misleading since it pertains to print work.

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What about the installation exhibition documentation?

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I think that's a great idea. I hadn't actually.

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Looked too much through the but I.

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I appreciate the suggestion and I'll, I'll look into a little bit further.

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Okay.

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Any other questions or comments.

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Not seeing any.

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So, let's go ahead and take a 10 minute break.

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So, we could be back here, like, around 10141015 or so.

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I mean, sorry for 414 or 415, there will be no different logins. We're going to come back right here.

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So you could go ahead and step away from your desk and then we'll start next with the grant presentation. So let's let's do it at.

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Let's do it at 415 everyone that's come back in 10 minutes.

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And then we could get started on that. Thanks. Everyone.

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I know, even though it says that that's misleading, it really is just a 5 minute and 37th video. So that's all that was it was a lightning talks. So it wasn't that long.

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So, no, there's no more video to pay for for this.

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All right, so everyone back at 415 thanks.

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Okay, I have 415, so we could go ahead and start up again.

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Brian can make David presenter, he would be introducing our grant.

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Welcome back everyone. This is a David prohaska at University of Akron up at moderating this segment. Recipients of the latest olack research grant are here to update us on their findings for those of you who are not familiar with the project.

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The researchers investigated how to leverage the competencies of meta data librarians,

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experienced AB,

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cataloging,

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librarians and access and discovery library,

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industrial cataloging,

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access and discovery shipment video content,

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using Mark cataloging as a key point for access and discovery streaming content.

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They will share details about what their research uncovered as with the lightning talks. We will be taking questions and comments solely through chat. So type your questions in the chat box and be sure to direct them to everyone. Thanks.

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Now, we'd like to introduce you to the grant recipients, Michelle Arbor has a p. H. D. and music history and a master of science and library and information.

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Science are ongoing research interests include digital humanities projects,

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open access publication metadata,

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associated with the publications lifecycle,

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undertaking,

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algorithmic bias,

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and research platforms and music literacy and the medieval monastery McGrath is metadata management library and at the University of Oregon,

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she hasn't experienced media catalogs has been active for many years she has a former cap ca chair and is currently particularly interested in ways to make library data more useful for humans and machines

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and ways to design discovery interfaces to make better use of AI.

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Right? Metadata.

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Or storage is the classic library of the University of Washington libraries. She has a master of Arts and humanities from the University of Chicago, and a master of science and library and information science from the University of Illinois Urbana, Champaign.

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Now, I will pass the presentation to Michelle.

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I'm waiting to be host I think so I can perfect. Now. I'm a presenter. I'm going to.

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Share my screen 3rd here.

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Okay, Haley, it looks like it needed me to.

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Had the preferences, so we're gonna have to go back to plan a or plan. B. yeah. He wants me to, like, leave the meeting and come back. So, can you load the slides? We have them there.

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Brian make me presenter for a minute.

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Or Michelle, whoever after.

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I am my presenter.

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It's okay Brian made me presenter. I'm great. Thanks.

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And go set up with regular Webex, but not Webex events. Yeah. Okay. And Brian go ahead. Pass the ball to Kelly. And can you remember just click on the slide ones and then page down to move forward.

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Okay, it will be me actually 1st.

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Oh, perfect. So to Michelle.

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The presenter, right? Thank you. Okay, so, welcome to our.

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Paging down here,

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just a quick overview of our talk or our study for the talk that we're going to give here over the next few minutes we wanted to study for various professional reasons.

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I wanted to study in particular wanting to study half streaming video was being cataloged and being accessed in libraries, primarily academic libraries.

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And at that point, I was with pro quest, and we were pursuing a new project in video, streaming, video indexing within the 380 knowledge base.

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And that product is still ongoing in a slow way inside of that team, as far as I know.

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But this product has a larger more global reach, because almost all the lightning talks showed a, everybody is invested in making streaming content, more accessible, especially now pandemic.

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So, part of that, of course, is cataloging of content. Once you have it in your system.

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But then there's the 2 other parts of that that are key, the acquisition and hosting on the 1 hand and discovery on the other and part of that pipeline.

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That is how do vendors help to participate in that acquisition and cataloging aspect, which then demonstrably influences for the better for the worse.

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In a way video is discovered,

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so the end goal,

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which I think we will have achieved was to begin a conversation with libraries and vendors to find what we're calling a middle ground for cataloging and acquisition content to make

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everybody's life easier within the catalog and acquisition space inside of a library,

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and then in turn in the discovery space on the other side.

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All right, just a quick heads up about our, like, who participated in the survey we had again 2 groups, we had the acquisition acquisitions and cataloging side, and we had discovery on the other part.

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We had a, what I think is a pretty good turnout for, especially for the acquisitions and cataloging survey, which was if you participated Thank you. And it was a biggie, which I'm sure you remember it encompassed.

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Upwards of 20 questions and lots of open text answers and everybody who participated really came to the table and offered a lot of good information.

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Can see here, the breakdown of our who participated specifically in our, the white paper. That will come out of this along with the data set. That will come out of our work. This will be broken down, more, fully.

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But you can see here.

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Most of the people who participated were from doctoral universities and with a showing of baccalaureates and masters colleges,

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being the 2nd and 3rd,

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most responding groups.

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The other groups and public library special. I didn't respond as fully are fewer people. I should say.

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Tended to be they were large public libraries or a, a large special library.

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So, in terms of, like, actual collections, the doctoral, these sort of are more akin to the doctoral collections in their actual video needs, which I thought was interesting.

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So, you can see that broken down there, both in the bar chart and the pie chart there.

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The other survey also had a good turnout. We had approximately 86 responses.

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Again, the largest group came from doctoral universities and with some other types of groups participating in this survey that didn't participate in the acquisition and catalog survey.

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I do know that a number of the catalogs from Alexander street did participate in the acquisition and cataloging survey.

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I'm not sure if they participated in this 1, but I do know that at least 4 vendors or sorry 5 vendors you can see that on the far left side of the of the bar chart that you see there.

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We have video distributors, meditated providers.

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And then people who are providing the for this left is library service platform folks, and they do make up a small percentage.

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But those 5 responses are actually really important in the larger scope of the survey, because they're sort of counterpart to all of the other replies that we got.

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So, thank you again to everyone who participated this is a shorter survey, but we still asked a lot of open ended questions. So we are sorting through both qualitative and quantitative data at this point.

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And with that going to pass it on to more a, and let's see.

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I'm going to make you presenter, you should have the ball now.

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It's here and how do I advance the slides again?

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Make sure that you have the thing selected and then hit the down arrow on your.

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Yes, but okay. Yeah, there you go. The presenter.

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Down there, it doesn't work to use it the page down button.

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There we go.

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Great.

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All right, so yeah, more Stewart, and actually, as part of this presentation, I'm talking with my acquisitions library and had on here.

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But in reference to the acquisitions questions in the specific acquisitions and catalog survey.

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There really only about 3 questions that dealt specifically with acquisition that's streaming video the idea behind those it was really to get general information about the kinds of streaming collections people answering the survey we're

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building,

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who was providing that streaming content and just kind of what,

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other considerations such as.

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Rest of the content being locally hosted or not that might be involved in managing a given institution,

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streaming collection since those kinds of considerations do sometimes impact decisions as to what to catalog or how to do.

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So.

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So 1 of the questions specifically was speaking to who provides the content when we were putting the survey together, we knew, we couldn't put everything under the sun. It would just be millions of pages long.

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We did put 15 options as well as an, I don't know, category and.

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And other opportunity to list.

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In other providers that people knew about.

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As it turned out, there were quite a few that we hadn't listed.

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And and total about 56 additional.

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Providers we got through the right in options. So you see here kind of listed in order of most to lesser.

574
01:17:18.569 --> 01:17:26.220
Used canopy Alexander street is sort of like the 2 or 3 biggest ones of phones on demand there.

575
01:17:26.220 --> 01:17:34.380
The usual suspects that there there are actually quite a few content providers out there that people use.

576
01:17:35.635 --> 01:17:39.475
And the other major question I wanted to highlight was just,

577
01:17:39.774 --> 01:17:39.954
you know,

578
01:17:39.954 --> 01:17:40.404
what,

579
01:17:40.645 --> 01:17:51.505
what particular models are people using this is a question similar to those on other previous streaming video surveys and tasks.

580
01:17:51.744 --> 01:17:56.755
So they haven't necessarily focused on the acquisition or cataloging of the material.

581
01:17:57.449 --> 01:17:58.109
Um,

582
01:17:59.425 --> 01:18:00.715
the 2 most common,

583
01:18:00.715 --> 01:18:02.875
as you can see here in the orange,

584
01:18:02.935 --> 01:18:13.765
the brighter orange and the green are collection subscriptions at about 22% and single title term licenses of essentially single title subscriptions.

585
01:18:15.449 --> 01:18:23.819
Oh, and the next 2 more common categories single title purchases the outright perpetual, right?

586
01:18:23.819 --> 01:18:28.289
As well, as collections that are purchased a perpetual rights.

587
01:18:28.289 --> 01:18:36.210
You know, but I say, even though it's, it's not, everybody puts all their eggs in 1 basket kind of thing. So.

588
01:18:36.210 --> 01:18:43.619
Anyway, some interesting information and also hopefully a few points for comparison with other Australia videos surveys.

589
01:18:43.619 --> 01:18:50.279
But if I say not not necessarily those focusing on catalogue and discovery.

590
01:18:50.279 --> 01:18:55.680
And so I will pass things back to Michelle to talk about more the discovery.

591
01:18:55.680 --> 01:19:02.340
Great thanks. Can you can you pass the ball back to me or can you advance? It was.

592
01:19:02.340 --> 01:19:06.119
Thank you. Great.

593
01:19:06.119 --> 01:19:14.970
Okay, I know everybody is dying to hear about the cataloging so I will be brief with the discovery.

594
01:19:14.970 --> 01:19:15.270
Uh,

595
01:19:15.265 --> 01:19:18.744
discussion talking about some highlights here again,

596
01:19:18.744 --> 01:19:19.074
this is,

597
01:19:19.074 --> 01:19:33.114
from that 2nd survey that we mentioned was approximately 86 respondents of those people who responded we found that title is absolutely hands

598
01:19:33.685 --> 01:19:37.585
down the most important piece of metadata that people want for discovery.

599
01:19:37.585 --> 01:19:48.114
And so, that leads us to the question. And how can we construct better titles? That will make for more accurate discovery.

600
01:19:48.114 --> 01:20:00.024
And of course, that for many of us, that will start back with a vendor and the men and data that we're asking them to send us. And I've sort of been following some discussions.

601
01:20:01.170 --> 01:20:14.699
Hearing that certain vendors are becoming better at providing the records that libraries need for discovery, but it's always a work in progress. So, again, it's a part of this conversation that we want to get started.

602
01:20:14.699 --> 01:20:26.215
We're hoping to find what what language we need to use and what information we need to give to vendors to, to get them to produce better content.

603
01:20:26.215 --> 01:20:31.104
But in terms of title list, and in terms of Mark records, and or other discovery tools.

604
01:20:31.409 --> 01:20:35.489
Along with.

605
01:20:36.715 --> 01:20:45.864
Titles as a key part of discovery, there are actual technological tools that were identified as being important and there were several things that were listed.

606
01:20:45.864 --> 01:20:59.515
But the top 3, that came back were facets labels for the video and the results list and then also full record displays. And these 3 are given an order of results.

607
01:20:59.545 --> 01:21:05.364
Important facets were considered to be the most important. And, of course, for good, fasting, you have to have.

608
01:21:06.390 --> 01:21:15.564
Good cataloging records to to feed the facets to help patrons, limit the content, although keep in mind.

609
01:21:15.564 --> 01:21:29.034
These tools are told that librarians and or and metadata managers and or people who are just working in the library, electronic resource management space. This is what they want on the other side of this.

610
01:21:29.034 --> 01:21:40.885
We have users, and they want something or they need something different, although we lost assets from our perspective. Fascinating is often confusing.

611
01:21:40.885 --> 01:21:44.064
So, these are the top 3 patron difficulties.

612
01:21:46.104 --> 01:21:55.314
Confusing results, these are in no particular order, but confusing results are definitely a problem too many links.

613
01:21:55.885 --> 01:22:03.715
You're seeing the wrong format, you're see your review instead of the actual video that you want to see, and a baby is no way to identify the streaming content.

614
01:22:04.225 --> 01:22:19.225
Certainly labels help, but they don't always they're not as granular as we often need them to be, which is occasionally a software hurdle in addition fasting as much as we left facets fasted and can be very confusing for patrons.

615
01:22:19.645 --> 01:22:34.494
And then there's always issue of stumbling on broken links and to a certain extent cataloging won't necessarily always fix that because it's coming from the links link resolutions

616
01:22:34.494 --> 01:22:37.375
coming from different solutions and different places.

617
01:22:38.784 --> 01:22:39.265
But.

618
01:22:40.380 --> 01:22:44.100
It is an issue to to keep in mind because it's what.

619
01:22:44.100 --> 01:22:47.220
Um, what patrons struggle with.

620
01:22:47.220 --> 01:22:56.130
When they assemble on something that they can't click through, and then everybody gets frustrated. All right and of that, I'm going to pass the ball to Kelly.

621
01:22:56.130 --> 01:23:02.430
Because this is why we're all really here today right here about markers and cataloging.

622
01:23:02.430 --> 01:23:06.449
Okay, so.

623
01:23:06.449 --> 01:23:12.300
I am going to talk about a few of the cataloging related questions that we asked.

624
01:23:12.300 --> 01:23:19.260
Where we were sort of asking about both cattle practices at the problems that they countered.

625
01:23:19.260 --> 01:23:28.560
Let me see here. Okay. And 1 of the questions we had to do with what type.

626
01:23:28.560 --> 01:23:38.069
Of individual titles, they catalog we're primarily interested in the cataloging of the individual streaming video titles, rather than collections or databases.

627
01:23:38.069 --> 01:23:44.640
Since that's really where the biggest challenge is and so we ask libraries that said they acquired streaming video.

628
01:23:44.640 --> 01:23:48.539
Whether they had records for some or all of their individual titles.

629
01:23:48.805 --> 01:23:51.145
In their primary public search interface,

630
01:23:51.564 --> 01:23:55.284
whatever they consider their main public interface,

631
01:23:55.284 --> 01:24:06.114
but it's some sort of consolidated discovery interface or a traditional OPEC and this chart shows what types of individual titles are included in their libraries,

632
01:24:06.114 --> 01:24:08.755
public catalogs based on the method of acquisition.

633
01:24:09.300 --> 01:24:16.079
So, the most common type of title be cataloged seems to be titles within a subscribed collection.

634
01:24:16.079 --> 01:24:22.020
And after that 1 off purchases are the most common and either file or.

635
01:24:22.020 --> 01:24:34.944
For a limited term license, and then we should ask library as well where do they get their records from? And 3 quarters of the responding libraries or at least some vendor records.

636
01:24:35.545 --> 01:24:39.954
Most are doing some cataloging of titles on a 1 by 1 basis as well.

637
01:24:40.319 --> 01:24:53.939
So, not relying completely on records that they're just getting through some automated process, or from a vendor and a smaller number of libraries are using various knowledge based products, like, or collection manager.

638
01:24:53.939 --> 01:25:00.029
Or the, all my community sound to manage, at least some of their streaming video.

639
01:25:00.029 --> 01:25:08.729
And then we asked them whether they altered or enhance vendors or party supply for individual streaming video titles.

640
01:25:08.729 --> 01:25:11.850
Either prior to load in them into their system.

641
01:25:11.850 --> 01:25:16.319
Or after load, and then, did they do any sort of post load clean up.

642
01:25:17.550 --> 01:25:20.970
And the majority of my worries did at least some kind of clean up.

643
01:25:20.970 --> 01:25:24.390
In the survey we had a long list of options from this question.

644
01:25:24.390 --> 01:25:29.340
Which I have consolidated into a smaller number of categories so they sit on a slide.

645
01:25:29.340 --> 01:25:38.699
In a way, that's at least somewhat legible I hope and the largest category which was performed by 75% of the fibroids that answered this question.

646
01:25:38.699 --> 01:25:45.329
Our local edits, and in that category includes things like adding proxy information to.

647
01:25:45.329 --> 01:25:55.229
Or adding information for local Holdings, or portfolios and Alma or adding local access points for collections, and adding notes on access restrictions.

648
01:25:55.229 --> 01:26:01.229
And almost half of the respondents reported correcting that be some Mark tagging errors.

649
01:26:01.229 --> 01:26:04.289
Many also deal with character and coding issues.

650
01:26:04.289 --> 01:26:09.779
Such as correcting incorrect in coding or converting marked files from Mark.

651
01:26:09.779 --> 01:26:13.140
Where the reverse.

652
01:26:13.140 --> 01:26:22.109
Format is sort of mass editing of format related fields like, if the form or this, we X's aren't right.

653
01:26:22.109 --> 01:26:25.229
Head answers anything to do with name or.

654
01:26:25.229 --> 01:26:38.935
Uh, subject or title headings and others kind of everything else. There are a small number of libraries who do no editing we also ask libraries about some of their cataloging preferences.

655
01:26:39.295 --> 01:26:45.984
So, for example, when we ask them, whether they prefer provider neutral provider or specific records for streaming videos.

656
01:26:46.680 --> 01:26:53.789
And the provider neutral model says that there should be only 1 record for so called equivalent.

657
01:26:53.789 --> 01:27:07.350
Manifestations of the digital resource, regardless of how many different providers provide access to that resource. So it's meant to reduce duplicate or near duplicate results for both catalogs and any users.

658
01:27:07.350 --> 01:27:14.130
And it's intended to be used in shared cataloging and, for example, CLC is policy is that world records.

659
01:27:14.130 --> 01:27:20.069
Should be provider neutral, right? Half of the libraries that responded to this.

660
01:27:20.069 --> 01:27:23.880
Questions say that they prefer provider neutral records.

661
01:27:23.880 --> 01:27:28.470
That will accept event provider, specific records for practical reasons.

662
01:27:28.470 --> 01:27:32.789
Which, you know, realistically, and a lot of the records that you find in World cat.

663
01:27:32.789 --> 01:27:45.000
Our source from vendors, and the vendors are producing provider, specific records however, a significant minority around a quarter prefer provider specific records.

664
01:27:45.000 --> 01:27:51.539
Or separate records for the same video from different providers, your platforms and the most common reason for this.

665
01:27:51.539 --> 01:27:56.399
Seems to be system limitations and batch loading and updating records.

666
01:27:56.399 --> 01:28:00.090
Following the provider neutral model and local systems.

667
01:28:00.090 --> 01:28:13.739
So some libraries and the comments expressed a very strong preference for provider neutral records. Whereas others talked about some of the challenges with provider neutral records.

668
01:28:13.739 --> 01:28:21.539
For videos, so, for example, sometimes it's hard to tell if 2 videos are the same expression or not.

669
01:28:21.539 --> 01:28:25.979
And if they're not equivalent, they shouldn't be on the same provider neutral record.

670
01:28:25.979 --> 01:28:29.880
To make that even worse that's sort of not a static target.

671
01:28:29.880 --> 01:28:34.350
Because, for example, sometimes vendors will add captioning videos.

672
01:28:34.350 --> 01:28:38.760
Then creates a different expression than what it had started out as.

673
01:28:38.760 --> 01:28:49.680
And the other thing that this question shows along with some of the other questions is a bit of a dilemma for vendors and other 3rd party providers that Mark records.

674
01:28:49.680 --> 01:28:54.779
In the library preferences, Barry, even if there are official standards.

675
01:28:54.779 --> 01:29:00.630
And there's really, no 1 size fits all cataloguing. That's going to satisfy all their library customers.

676
01:29:00.630 --> 01:29:04.710
And friendly 1 question we asked.

677
01:29:04.710 --> 01:29:09.029
What is about what.

678
01:29:09.029 --> 01:29:13.800
Library stop your top 5 problems related to streaming video. Are.

679
01:29:13.800 --> 01:29:24.600
And we gave them a list of issues as follows allowed them to write something in. And the 2 issues that stand out the most in the list of results are that 4 out of 5 libraries say.

680
01:29:24.600 --> 01:29:30.930
That these 2 things are among their top 5 problems with streaming video.

681
01:29:30.930 --> 01:29:36.750
And the very 1st is licensing expiring and losing access to content that remains in the catalogue.

682
01:29:36.750 --> 01:29:41.909
Which is an issue for 41 if 50 libraries that answered this question.

683
01:29:41.909 --> 01:29:49.199
And it was the top issue for 17 of them and inadequate metadata for effective end user discovery.

684
01:29:49.199 --> 01:30:03.149
Was also flagged as a major issue by 40 and the top issue for 12 of the libraries. Probably the biggest thing and the right in section had to do with the cost of streaming video.

685
01:30:03.149 --> 01:30:06.840
And.

686
01:30:08.039 --> 01:30:14.430
I think that is the end of my part and we're now moving on to questions.

687
01:30:14.430 --> 01:30:23.250
If you have any questions at the moment, go ahead and type them into chat and send it to everyone.

688
01:30:23.694 --> 01:30:31.255
This looks like a comment from Peter list. Yes. Who says, I think it's difficult to make an expression level big record just to account for languages.

689
01:30:31.255 --> 01:30:39.774
Especially if the phone was originally produced without any I'm thinking, specifically about subtitles and closed captioning, which could very among vendors.

690
01:30:42.840 --> 01:30:52.439
Well, it's true that it, I think that 1 of the biggest problems is it's static and some is not static necessarily. And sometimes the vendors don't.

691
01:30:52.439 --> 01:30:57.180
You know, communicate very clearly what they have.

692
01:30:57.180 --> 01:31:00.329
But I think that provider neutral standard.

693
01:31:00.329 --> 01:31:05.909
Is not trying to tell you to mix apples and oranges. It's really about.

694
01:31:05.909 --> 01:31:14.130
Things that are equivalent manifestations and I think accessibility options and so forth are.

695
01:31:14.130 --> 01:31:17.430
You know, I really important to.

696
01:31:17.430 --> 01:31:27.239
And language options for users, trying to fulfill the basic Farber tasks of selecting what they want. And so it doesn't really help them.

697
01:31:27.239 --> 01:31:31.979
In an environment like World cat, if we smush all the options together.

698
01:31:31.979 --> 01:31:37.050
But I think the provider neutral standard in the.

699
01:31:37.050 --> 01:31:46.649
In my opinion, despite the fact that, you know, it's solving a real problem, it presents a lot of practical challenges for streaming video.

700
01:31:53.965 --> 01:32:06.835
That's the only question or comment we have at the moment. Oh, Here's another 1 from June Courtney and vendors provide thumbnail pictures for streaming video or does it have to come from the discovery layer provider?

701
01:32:06.864 --> 01:32:09.715
Such as content cafe or chilly fresh.

702
01:32:10.439 --> 01:32:16.588
I, I think they, they potentially.

703
01:32:16.588 --> 01:32:22.319
Could it depends if they consider that to be part of the data that they can bundle.

704
01:32:22.319 --> 01:32:26.759
With the stuff that they end up sending to.

705
01:32:26.759 --> 01:32:29.969
To libraries is a part of my title lists and stuff.

706
01:32:35.548 --> 01:32:40.859
It certainly gets bundled another industries with content.

707
01:32:40.859 --> 01:32:46.048
I mean, we all think about searching on Amazon or Netflix or something.

708
01:32:50.399 --> 01:32:56.158
Thanks for that question. By the way I'll make sure that it gets included in there.

709
01:32:56.158 --> 01:33:08.908
Well, I'm always amazed when I compare the practices of different industries, the audio industry, versus the, the media, the film industry, versus.

710
01:33:08.908 --> 01:33:14.458
Print industry of the practices are so different for this kind of stuff.

711
01:33:14.458 --> 01:33:21.088
Sort of frustrating. Yeah. Yeah. They totally are. I mean, I, I feel like.

712
01:33:21.088 --> 01:33:24.988
Cereal and book vendors have been.

713
01:33:24.988 --> 01:33:28.198
Kind of trains better at this point.

714
01:33:28.198 --> 01:33:36.149
To to, to produce things that libraries want and although video it's not a new format. It is.

715
01:33:36.149 --> 01:33:41.429
1, that the vendors of the content are still learning how to supply what libraries 1.

716
01:33:41.429 --> 01:33:49.738
And I and I can't speak for audio. I know I know less about that.

717
01:33:53.998 --> 01:34:06.838
So, I see that Peter said new chat that you can add language and accessibility back and locally after importing our provider neutral record.

718
01:34:06.838 --> 01:34:13.198
But that doesn't actually help people searching in a shared database, like wildcat or libraries that.

719
01:34:13.198 --> 01:34:16.259
Humans or cat as their.

720
01:34:16.259 --> 01:34:24.269
Or, like, right like us, where we get the updates from those master record that overwrite our local edits.

721
01:34:24.269 --> 01:34:31.048
Um, and it does mean that you actually have to touch all those records.

722
01:34:31.048 --> 01:34:37.019
If you're rather than maintaining that information cooperative.

723
01:34:40.559 --> 01:34:48.719
That's a good point. Thanks, Kelly. Yeah, if you get automatic overlays from from it's like.

724
01:34:48.719 --> 01:34:52.529
That information this goes away any local customizing.

725
01:34:52.529 --> 01:34:59.189
Unless you protect it, and then you're losing the advantage of the overlays anyway.

726
01:34:59.189 --> 01:35:13.229
The common by Mary console to everyone about getting vendors to understand with cataloging really is is absolutely crucial.

727
01:35:19.104 --> 01:35:29.904
And that that is actually 1 of my ideal goals, that was my vision originally for this embedded. In the 360.

728
01:35:29.904 --> 01:35:44.724
we certainly we want the same records that you do generally, but that's always been a provider neutral space for, for as long as I do database knowledge bases existed, but that being said, we.

729
01:35:47.304 --> 01:36:01.104
We engage in the same conversations about getting higher quality records ingested so that the end of product and work properly. So it's my hope that this.

730
01:36:02.279 --> 01:36:12.118
This document can be used to share with vendors, and it's possible that we may need to include some basic cataloging.

731
01:36:12.118 --> 01:36:15.658
Information at the beginning of it so it's more than just a.

732
01:36:15.658 --> 01:36:23.038
Research evaluation, that's definitely 1 of the primary things it needs to do, but.

733
01:36:23.038 --> 01:36:28.889
If it's going to be a handbook, then then that's another thing that people need.

734
01:36:28.889 --> 01:36:32.819
Um, certainly.

735
01:36:33.623 --> 01:36:47.304
This is David speaking a question just came to mind. Would it make sense to expand this to look at strengthen the audio and engage those vendors? Or is it more appropriate to keep it targeted to the video market?

736
01:36:47.304 --> 01:36:48.713
So it's more manageable.

737
01:36:49.109 --> 01:37:00.149
I don't know if I have a good answer for that. I think I think people on this call need to answer that if there's need for it, then absolutely.

738
01:37:01.644 --> 01:37:03.953
There are similar problems with audio.

739
01:37:05.064 --> 01:37:19.613
We subscribe to Naxos, and we have been getting records from a CLC, which we pay for and the quality of the records is great, but I cannot get access to talk to about things like titles that go away.

740
01:37:20.934 --> 01:37:35.783
You wouldn't access loses a license for something there's no more access, but I cannot go. See, I'll see to me now that even though I'm getting my my records from my CLC, so it's frustrating tug of war. Yeah.

741
01:37:36.118 --> 01:37:41.338
Okay, I'm just making notes here that use case.

742
01:37:41.338 --> 01:37:49.078
And I see Mary uncle said that she has the same issue with Canada. If you're talking to.

743
01:37:50.219 --> 01:37:59.639
We do get their records for canopy, but we get them directly from canopy. So it's a different workflow, but it sounds like the same problem's happening there.

744
01:37:59.639 --> 01:38:10.583
Yeah, and for some of those records people correct me if I'm wrong here, but there's the issue of the on the 1 hand, we have records that we're getting from connection.

745
01:38:10.583 --> 01:38:17.844
On the other hand, there's the match and merge process that happens in WS. And I know that some libraries will pull records that way.

746
01:38:18.628 --> 01:38:28.948
Um, and so there's a, there's an issue in, like, actually 2 places in the services that CLC is providing.

747
01:38:28.948 --> 01:38:32.609
Yeah.

748
01:38:32.609 --> 01:38:39.509
I do not know what her timeframe is. If it's Haley or Brian could.

749
01:38:39.509 --> 01:38:53.724
Louis and on where we should, I think he folks are Steelcase 5 more minutes for any more questions or discussion. I mean, after that, it's just going to be a few words former presidents to close those. So we're still good.

750
01:38:53.904 --> 01:38:57.054
I think by more minutes will be just fine if there's 1 discussion.

751
01:38:57.359 --> 01:39:00.689
The folks want to have about the topic.

752
01:39:00.689 --> 01:39:07.319
Okay, thanks. We did have a comment from Eduardo. Is it for you?

753
01:39:07.319 --> 01:39:18.988
But if that correctly that Alice allows you to add a 5 with your institution to protect from overlays oh, yeah, that's nice.

754
01:39:18.988 --> 01:39:28.288
And I think also allows it, but everything lets things have changed. Everything is dumped into like a 590 to keep it locked.

755
01:39:28.288 --> 01:39:35.069
So, um, yeah, it's it's unclear how many of us have that option.

756
01:39:35.069 --> 01:39:38.309
Or how many libraries I should say.

757
01:39:39.359 --> 01:39:47.639
Sierra Sara does as well. Okay, so people are able to protect their data. Certain libraries are able to protect their data. Then.

758
01:39:47.639 --> 01:40:01.139
It's then for us, it becomes tricky. Sometimes you want to protect it and sometimes we don't if an overlay record is bringing in a corrected.

759
01:40:01.139 --> 01:40:05.939
We want that to come in, so we don't want to always protect the existing.

760
01:40:05.939 --> 01:40:09.448
And gets murky. Mm. Hmm.

761
01:40:09.448 --> 01:40:13.588
Yeah, I can see that.

762
01:40:13.588 --> 01:40:17.698
Any other last thoughts.

763
01:40:17.698 --> 01:40:28.408
Let me ask you this, do you can juicy pursuing this research further? I am interested.

764
01:40:28.408 --> 01:40:31.738
For me, I can't speak for Kelly and more. I.

765
01:40:31.738 --> 01:40:43.198
So, they can, they can leap in and say what they're interested in this. I also am serving on a nice board working group, I guess, for video and audio metadata.

766
01:40:43.198 --> 01:40:50.998
Functionally, it's creating use cases and business cases for better better.

767
01:40:50.998 --> 01:40:59.458
So, I have already sort of been proselytizes this work elsewhere if there is need and interest.

768
01:40:59.458 --> 01:41:03.029
To produce things that will help.

769
01:41:03.029 --> 01:41:12.509
Catalog you can get better than absolutely if this is something that people already feel like they have in hand then.

770
01:41:12.509 --> 01:41:18.208
And then we can probably produce the white paper and maybe some information about.

771
01:41:18.208 --> 01:41:26.338
Introduction like, this is what cataloging is this is what we want from this is what it is, and we can just let it be at that.

772
01:41:26.873 --> 01:41:38.423
What's great to her that. Nice. I was taking interest in that working group. Yeah, they totally are. It's and it's really great, but we're also sort of learning how to PB core and E, commerce and things like that.

773
01:41:38.423 --> 01:41:50.873
So, it's a risk that always you have to take well, thank you very much. It's fascinating presentation. We appreciate hearing what you what you found out.

774
01:41:52.163 --> 01:42:06.503
Yeah, yeah, and look for, we're really hoping to get our white paper out to you all by the end of the year. And if people want to comment on it before we deposit it formally at olack.

775
01:42:06.564 --> 01:42:12.804
Then we'll take comments. And so, hopefully by the 1st, quarter of 2021, this will be officially wrapped up.

776
01:42:14.219 --> 01:42:17.578
Unless there's a lot further interest and that we can continue the conversation.

777
01:42:17.578 --> 01:42:20.939
We're looking forward to that. Thank you so much.

778
01:42:20.939 --> 01:42:26.009
Thank you everyone right?

779
01:42:26.009 --> 01:42:29.729
So, we're happy and.

780
01:42:29.729 --> 01:42:38.429
Brian, if you can make Christie a panel, there you go. Christie. So want to take it away to sign us off.

781
01:42:38.429 --> 01:42:42.628
All right, well, thank you very much. Everyone for.

782
01:42:42.628 --> 01:42:49.918
A wonderful conference for staying engaged and really just being a part of this. Great.

783
01:42:49.918 --> 01:42:52.948
Amazing community.

784
01:42:53.453 --> 01:43:06.234
If you're wondering about, where do we go from here? Maybe start thinking about submitting proposals for 2022 oh, that to conference if you have ideas for further content or want to make suggestions about what.

785
01:43:09.689 --> 01:43:12.689
You know what people out there need to.

786
01:43:12.689 --> 01:43:16.649
Let us know be in touch.

787
01:43:16.649 --> 01:43:25.828
You know, we're in for some uncharted waters here so it's really great to be a part of this community of, like, minded.

788
01:43:25.828 --> 01:43:33.149
People where we can network and share our ideas and share our resources and.

789
01:43:33.149 --> 01:43:42.029
I think this has been a fantastic conference, and I'm grateful that we've all been able to join in and participate. So.

790
01:43:42.029 --> 01:43:48.418
Well, and I wish you all a good weekend and safe.

791
01:43:48.418 --> 01:43:52.889
Travels or staying home or anything you're going to do and.

792
01:43:52.889 --> 01:43:58.109
Appreciate your participation thanks and be well, everyone.

793
01:43:58.109 --> 01:44:11.969
Hi, everyone, this is Haiti. I know someone posted in chat about if these have all these recordings will be available to those that did not come to the Cranston. I don't know.

794
01:44:11.969 --> 01:44:18.599
I believe the boy is discussing this, and this might be a possibility in the future. So more details to come on that front.

795
01:44:18.599 --> 01:44:25.738
But for now, take care have a wonderful weekend, and we hope you enjoyed it and goodbye. Now.

796
01:44:25.738 --> 01:44:36.118
Next time.

797
01:44:37.889 --> 01:44:41.458
Well, I don't know.